On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 1:51 AM, Timothy Perrett <timo...@getintheloop.eu>wrote:

> The only possible thing that one could do would need two aspects:
>
> 1. The lift side to produce particular JSON
> 2. The capp side to consume said JSON
>
> Without a full "package", there aren't really any integration points as we
> have already got comet working with capp so the only thing remaining is
> overall user implementation experience.
>

Oh, I disagree.  I think there are a lot of interesting potential ways to
write model (not RDBMS models, but more general models) that emit Obj-J such
that they feel natural to Cap and fully integrate with Cap (and Atlas) but
are strongly typed and play well in Scala/Lift/Akka/Goat Rodeo land.


>
> Cheers, Tim
>
> On 10 Mar 2010, at 09:40, Mads Hartmann Jensen wrote:
>
> > +1 for cappuccino
> >
> > Played around with it a while back - it's pretty amazing.
> >
> > What kind of intergration are we talking about? I wouldn't mind taking a
> look at intergrating cappuccino.
> >
> > On 10/03/2010, at 10.37, Indrajit Raychaudhuri wrote:
> >
> >> ExtCore is MIT Licensed and a candidate for JSArtifacts impl [1].
> >> I started dabbling with an implementation of ExtCoreArtifacts sometime
> >> back, but didn't have enough bandwidth to carry it forward.
> >>
> >> In case somebody is willing to run with this, there is a ticket for
> >> this already [2]
> >>
> >> Non ExtCore are GPLed and doesn't mix conveniently. Although there are
> >> some exceptions, I am not sure how practically that works license wise
> >> [3].
> >>
> >> Cheers, Indrajit
> >>
> >> [1] http://www.extjs.com/products/extcore/
> >> [2] http://www.assembla.com/spaces/liftweb/tickets/132
> >> [3] http://www.extjs.com/products/floss-exception.php
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Marius <marius.dan...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Please see here
> >>>
> http://groups.google.com/group/liftweb/browse_thread/thread/5e4f5e424d33db40/32cccccfb6752954?lnk=gst&q=ExtJs#32cccccfb6752954
> >>>
> >>> I'd strongly encourage you to integrate ExtJs with Lift and
> >>> potentially other frameworks. Depending on JS library licence we'd be
> >>> happy to have integrations with other JS frameworks.
> >>>
> >>> JsArtifacts should provide you the necessary abstractions for such
> >>> integrations but if you run into problems, please let us know.
> >>>
> >>> On Mar 10, 8:27 am, Jim Barrows <jim.barr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 8:45 PM, aw <anth...@whitford.com> wrote:
> >>>>> It is time for me to add some serious widgets to my lift app.
> >>>>
> >>>>> So far, I am most enamored by ExtJS.
> >>>>> Another alternative could possibly be ZK.
> >>>>
> >>>>> Does anybody have any experience with these frameworks?  Can you
> >>>>> comment on why integrating them with Scala/Lift would be a bad idea
> >>>>> (or not work)?
> >>>>
> >>>>> I searched for some historical posts on ExtJS and discovered some
> >>>>> threads about it's license and how it impacts inclusion in the lift
> >>>>> framework.  Would a commercial license prohibit it from being a lift-
> >>>>> widget submodule candidate?
> >>>>
> >>>>> Does anybody have a better suggestion that you think can compete with
> >>>>> ExtJS?
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm using ExtJS in anger at 0rk.  3.1.1 is nice.  3.0.0 is weird.
>  Some odd
> >>>> bugs being reported.  We're also getting some weird interactions with
> some
> >>>> other js libraries ( I won't mention it, it's not available anymore,
> and if
> >>>> it was it just leave you scarred) and CSS.  However, that's the other
> >>>> libraries fault more then ExtJS's.
> >>>>
> >>>> If you want something that looks and feels as close to a desktop app
> as you
> >>>> can get.. ExtJS can do the job well.  With Lift providing the JSON, it
> would
> >>>> be hard to go wrong.  That said.. ExtJS is not an easy beast to learn.
>  It's
> >>>> even worse to try and L10N it easily.  I would not try and use just
> pieces
> >>>> of it, it's really not designed to do that.  It seems to me to be an
> all or
> >>>> nothing approach.  That's not say you can't use it piecemeal, I think
> you
> >>>> lose a lot of flexibility (especially in layout) that way.
> >>>>
> >>>> I wouldn't use it if left to my own devices though, unless I had a
> >>>> requirement for a desktop app on the web.  It's serious overkill.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> James A Barrows
> >>>
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