Hi y'all,

Re Google Groups:

It appears that one can join a Google Group without a _gmail_ account by
sending a special subscribe email to a certain Google Groups endpoint:
https://webapps.stackexchange.com/a/126053. FWIW, this won't let you use the
web UI directly (useful for searching, the archive, etc).

If you want to be able to use the web UI, and don't have a gmail account,
then you can associate a Google Account with that gmail account. This'll let
you use the UI, but not require you to actually use gmail.

It looks like there's a related option in Groups.io: https://groups.io/.
Haven't used it myself, but it advertises a migration path from Mailman
(which I think is what we use rn under the covers?). At a glance, it has a
web UI, but email is still a first-class citizen:
https://groups.io/static/why.

Re the options:

I personally favor the Discourse option, as you get nice rendering for
images and LaTeX, tags, categories, etc: https://discourse.org/features.

It can also be run in email list mode, which'll allow one to use it as a
regular email list, and never actually visit the website:

  * https://racket.discourse.group/t/how-to-enable-mailing-list-mode/167
  * https://meta.discourse.org/t/what-is-mailing-list-mode/46008

-- Laolu


On Sun, Nov 26, 2023 at 8:51 AM Matt Corallo <lf-li...@mattcorallo.com>
wrote:

> During the last meeting it came up that the mailing list here will likely
> shut down somewhere around
> the end of the year. We listed basically the following options for future
> discussion forums:
>
> * google groups as a mailing list hoster. One question was whether its
> friendly to subscribing
> without a gmail account, which may be limiting to some.
> * github discussions on the lightning org. One question is whether the
> moderation tools here are
> sufficient.
> * Someone (probably me) host a mailman instance and we use another mailing
> list. I dug into this a
> bit and am happy to do this, on the one condition that the ML remains
> fully moderated, though this
> doens't seem like a substantial burden today. One question is if
> spam-foldering will be an issue,
> but with full moderation I'm pretty confident this will be tolerable, at
> least for those with email
> hosted anywhere but Microsoft lol.
> * A discourse instance (either we host one or we use delvingbitcoin, which
> AJ hosts and has
> previously offered to set up a lightning section on).
>
> There was some loose discussion, but I'm not sure there's going to be a
> clear conclusion. Thus, I
> think we should simply vote at the next meeting after a time-boxed minute
> or two discussion. If
> anyone has any thoughts or would like to have their voice heard, they can
> join the meeting in a week
> and a day or can respond here and I'll do my best to repeat the views
> expressed on the call.
>
> Matt
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