Hey Gang,

I've been bending my brain around the mind/body problem for some time.  I would
like to discuss the possible existence of a "spirit" within us.

Succinctly, is there a "spirit" or "self" and how does it fit into Pirsig's MOQ?

We know consciousness exists.  Everyone here (I assume) has experiences,
opinions and so forth.  Yet, I can only infer what someone is feeling or
experiencing.  Pirisig said *everything* that exists is *experiencable*.
Someone else's perception of value is not knowable or experiencable to me.  How
can this be?  Is the solution dualism - the existence of Value *and* Spirit?

Descartes made this plea to the materialists.  I think the plea argument can be
made to the MOQists. Unfortunately, the philosophers (Descartes, St. Thomas
Aquinas) wrongly -- I think -- applied dualism to justify fundamentalist
religious practices.  I'm only proposing we discuss the non-religious aspects of
dualism.

This could a toughie!  Any takers??




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