"Torsten Hämmerle" <[email protected]> writes:
> Hi David and Harm,
>
> You're right, I'm probably making this up.
> But I haven't found a single example in Learning Manual, Notation
> Manual, where chord fingerings outside the chord.
Documentation/notation/simultaneous.itely: <a' c e>1\p^"text" q2\<( q8)[-!
q8.]\! q16-1-2-3 q8\prall
Which is a single example. Admittedly, the only one I found with a
simple regex.
> Besides, fingeringOrientations will only work for fingerings within
> <>.
Well, yes. Per-chord fingerings make a single stack which would be
tricky to combine with fingeringOrientations. The two fingering
engravers are not feature equivalent and very likely not bug equivalent
either.
--
David Kastrup
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** [issues:#3692] Fingering collision with accidentals**
**Status:** Started
**Created:** Sat Nov 30, 2013 09:17 AM UTC by Anonymous
**Last Updated:** Fri Aug 03, 2018 02:32 PM UTC
**Owner:** Torsten Hämmerle
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*Originally created by:* *anonymous
*Originally created by:*
[[email protected]](http://code.google.com/u/101609726059656965678/)
Fingerings do not take accidentals into account, and fingerings align over the
first note inout of a chord, rather than centering over the whole chord.
\version "2.17.96"
\{
<e'' f'' cis'''>1 ^1^2^5
\}
From Keith Ohara:
"Unfortunately this is a different bug -- or two -- so it will
not be fixed at the same time as collisions between Fingerings.
\(1\) LilyPond has never looked at Accidentals when placing Fingering;
until recently that caused only small overlaps with sharps because
the Fingering did not previously fit so close to the chord.
\(2\) Fingering on a chord as a whole should center over the main column
of note-heads; instead it centers over the first-input note.
So, you can do the same as we did when using version 2.12: rearrange
the order of pitches in the chord so a main-column note comes first.
\{ <f'' e'' cis'''>1 ^1^2^5 \}
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From Janek :
This is similar to issues
[https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2245](#2245)
[https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2451](#2451)
[https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2452](#2452)
and i believe to solve it in a general way we would have to teach
lilypond about different kinds of extents - see:
[http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2012-06/msg00230.html](http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2012-06/msg00230.html)
[https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3239](#3239) \(sorry, that
issue got pretty messy\).
Currently the work i started on this is waiting until 2.18.0 is out...
What about leaving it for now and attacking this together after 2.18?
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Possibly a Known Issue in NR 1.7.1 would be in order.
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