- **status**: New --> Shelved
- **assigned_to**: Torsten Hämmerle
- **Comment**:

In the quest for a better, much more straight-forward general solution, I've 
created the  ticket

[Issue 5788 - New French Beaming 
Approach](https://sourceforge.net/p/testlilyissues/issues/5788/).

As it is a complete re-design of LilyPond's French beaming implementation, this 
new approach should be able to solve all the various problems caused by current 
French beaming, because all grob positioning behaviour will exacly match the 
standard beaming case without the need for any distiction between French and 
stanard beaming cases.

Everything now is exactly identical, and only at the very end and only in the 
ly:stem::print stencil, the (printed) stem length will be shortened by the 
appropriat french-correction value. 
For all the other objects and, of course, the beams, even French stems will be 
treated as standard-length stems (property "Length" will always keep the 
standard stem length value), so that all positioning calculations of anything 
will automatically correct (in the sense of: identical to standard beaming).

**Please have a look!** --- Especially at the two old/new comparison PDFs 
attached there.

For that reason, I'll set this issue to "shelved" for the time being, waiting 
for the general solution that will also cover this issue.

Cheers,
Torsten





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** [issues:#5691] French Beams are longer than expected**

**Status:** Shelved
**Created:** Sat Jan 25, 2020 10:48 AM UTC by pkx166h
**Last Updated:** Mon Feb 24, 2020 01:54 AM UTC
**Owner:** Torsten Hämmerle
**Attachments:**

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[french-beam.png](https://sourceforge.net/p/testlilyissues/issues/5691/attachment/french-beam.png)
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 French beams are longer than
normal:

~~~
  \relative c'' {
    r16 f d f
    \override Stem.french-beaming = ##t
    r16 f d f
  }
~~~

Looking into scores from French publishers this behaviour seems to be
incorrect.



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