On Tue, 2025-02-11 at 11:20 -0500, Saul Tobin wrote: > > Look, I more or less agree on all the moral questions here. Big tech is > evil and not including full history in every reply should be at least an > automatic setting, But am I going to switch email clients? No, and it's not > a reasonable expectation.
Sure, that's your decision. But please also consider the other side: In the first reply to this thread, you said > In my humble (and I'm guessing unpopular) opinion, collapsing reply > history included below an email reply is an expected UI feature given > that every email system these days needs to handle messages sent from > Gmail. Regardless of whether we come to an agreement on this point, it is effectively asking all others to switch their email clients if they don't have this "UI feature" at the moment. I don't think that's a reasonable expectation either. > The *actual* question here, which I don't see most replies in this thread > addressing, is not what Google should do or whether it's morally virtuous > to not use their products, but what you want people like me to do if we > have something to contribute to the conversation but I'm on my phone and > have 3 minutes. Because manually deleting history on my phone is annoying > enough that I just won't bother to reply. I would again like to point out the flip side: When contributing, you are expecting others to read your message. By not following a common mailing list style, it will take more time to process and in this case, you have to multiply by N people sitting on the receiving end. As a general rule of thumb, I personally try to consider my own time less valuable than the combined time of all others. This applies to the mailing list, writing clear code (that is read far more often), patch reviews, ...
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