Apologies for breaking threading a little...not getting the emails directly
(resubbing hasn't taken yet, I guess) so I'm having to reply to myself to
try to keep it in thread. I looked at the Gonville font as Magnus
suggested, but it still seems a bit prominent for what I'm needing.

I was able to figure out how to build a stencil for the bracket that gets
pretty close to what I'm looking for by using a couple of comma glyphs. I
changed the delimiter type to a bar line so that it would handle the height
of the choir staff, but the stencil is aligning to the upper extent of the
system, rather than the center of the choir staff. When I tried various
ways of "centering," what I got was the bracket centered on the upper
extent.

Any help on how to get this centered, or is this completely the wrong
approach for what I'm trying to do?

Carl

```
\version "2.24.1"
\score {
    \new ChoirStaff <<
        { \stemUp c'' d'' e'' f'' g''}
        { c d e f g }
    >>
    \layout {
        \context {
            \ChoirStaff
            \override SystemStartBracket.padding = #-.3
            \override SystemStartBracket.thickness = #3
            \override SystemStartBracket.style = #'bar-line
            \override SystemStartBracket.stencil = #(lambda (grob)
                (ly:stencil-combine-at-edge
                    (ly:stencil-combine-at-edge
                        (ly:stencil-aligned-to
                            (ly:stencil-scale
                                (ly:stencil-rotate (grob-interpret-markup
grob #{\markup {\musicglyph "scripts.lvarcomma"} #}) -55 -1 -1 )
                                .6)
                            0 -1.3)
                        1 -1
                        (ly:stencil-aligned-to
(ly:system-start-delimiter::print grob) 0 -1) -.3
                    ) 1 -1
                    (ly:stencil-aligned-to
                        (ly:stencil-scale
                            (ly:stencil-rotate (ly:stencil-scale
(grob-interpret-markup grob #{\markup {\musicglyph "scripts.lvarcomma"} #})
1 -1) 55 1 .75)
                            .6
                        )
                            0 -1.3
                    )
                    -.3
                )
            )
        }
    }
}
```

On Mon, Sep 1, 2025 at 11:38 PM Carl Peterson <carlopeter...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I am trying to match the style sheet of an existing hymnal. The hymnal
> uses brackets similar to the brackets, but the tips are much less
> pronounced than what the default output is out of Lilypond. I looked at the
> simpler settings for SystemStartBracket and didn't see anything that would
> do what I needed. I'm guessing it involves modifying the stencil, but
> that's a new area for me. Any help would be appreciated.
>
> An example of the reference hymnal can be seen here, if helpful:
> https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-c8331u0/images/stencil/1280x1280/products/1394/20025/PHaSS_with_Features_Page_2__51567.1716163406.jpg
>
> Thanks,
> Carl
>

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