Hello all, Bumping this in the hope that someone might be able to help me continue my gradual ascent of the LIlyPond learning curve!
Thanks, Thomas > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Thomas Liggett <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Control of spacing between left edge and first note > Date: 27 March 2017 at 1:56:04 PM NZDT > To: Andrew Bernard <[email protected]> > Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > Hi Andrew, > > With your help I've got the desired result – many thanks! (BTW I was > able to set the "key-signature extra-space" without including that > whole alist.) But I'd like to better understand the logic behind > what's happening in my code below. > > To produce a staff with no clef, key signature, time signature, or > barlines, and to be able to specify the spacing between the left edge > of the staff and the first note (i.e. to be able to produce diagrams > comprising only staves with note-groups as in the example below): > > * just making the clef a point-stencil, omitting the bar-engraver, and > using \override LeftEdge.space-alist.clef = #'(extra-space . xxx) > achieves this for the first system, but NOT for any subsequent systems > (hence my original query) > > To control the first system AND subsequent systems: > > * a (semantically irrelevant) key signature is required (set to a > point-stencil, otherwise extra space is introduced) – C major will > suffice. Why? (What's the difference to Lilypond between "no key > signature" and "a specified key signature of no sharps or flats"?!?) > > * barlines, made transparent, are required to "reference off" as you > say. (Transparent barlines, naturally, include space either side, so > in order to have an arbitrary number of notes spaced evenly across a > system – i.e. in this example, to avoid an extra space between the two > groups of 8 notes – a time signature equal to the length of the system > must be specified. But the nice thing about omitting the bar engraver > in my original was that it avoided the need to specify a semantically > irrelevant time signature.) But how are barlines even involved in > controlling the space between the left edge of the staff and the first > note? > > Is it related to the issue Urs is dealing with in this thread? > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2017-03/msg00627.html > > Thanks again, > Thomas > > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > > \version "2.19.41" > > \paper { indent = 0 } > > \layout { > \context { > \Score > \override LeftEdge.space-alist.clef = #'(extra-space . 2) % space > between left edge and invisible clef > \remove Bar_number_engraver > } > \context { > \Staff > \remove Time_signature_engraver > % \remove Bar_engraver > \override Clef.stencil = #point-stencil % make clef effectively invisible > \override Clef.space-alist.key-signature = #'(extra-space . 0) % > space between invisible clef and invisible key sig > \override KeySignature.stencil = #point-stencil > \override BarLine.transparent = ##t > } > } > \score { > \relative c'' { > \clef "treble" > \key c \major % comment out this line and see what happens! > \time 4/2 % comment out this line and there's extra space added > where default (4/4) barlines would be > \stemUp > b8 b c c d d e e f f g g a a b b \break > b,, b c c d d e e f f g g a a b b > } > } > > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > > > On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 6:01 PM Andrew Bernard <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> Hi Thomas, >> >> Try this perhaps. >> >> [You have to retain clefs and barlines and render them transparent, so that >> they exist to reference off. One ought to be able to just set the value >> (key-signature extra-space . 8) say, but I am not sure why we need the whole >> shebang alist.] >> >> >> Andrew >> >> == snip >> >> \version "2.19.56" >> >> \paper { indent = 0 } >> >> \score { >> \relative c'' { >> >> \override Staff.KeySignature.stencil = #point-stencil >> \override Staff.Clef.stencil = #point-stencil >> \override Staff.BarLine.transparent = ##t >> >> \key a \major >> \stemUp >> % >> >> b8 b c c d d e e f f g g a a b b >> \break >> b,, b c c d d e e f f g g a a b b >> } >> >> \layout { >> \context { >> \Score >> \remove Bar_number_engraver >> } >> \context { >> \Staff >> \remove Time_signature_engraver >> >> \override Clef.space-alist = >> #'((ambitus extra-space . 2.0) >> (breathing-sign minimum-space . 0.0) >> (cue-end-clef extra-space . 0.8) >> (clef extra-space . 0.8) >> (cue-clef extra-space . 0.8) >> (staff-bar extra-space . 0.0) >> (key-cancellation extra-space . 0.0) >> (key-signature extra-space . 8) >> (time-signature extra-space . 1.0) >> (custos extra-space . 0.0) >> (first-note fixed-space . 0.0) >> (right-edge extra-space . 0.0)) >> >> } >> } >> } >> >> == snip >> _______________________________________________ lilypond-user mailing list [email protected] https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
