On 27/07/18 15:30, Torsten Hämmerle wrote:
> Anthony Youngman-2 wrote
>> Well, lilypond is about the only place I ever normally see it! :-) YMMV
>> :-)
> 
> Here's a non-LilyPond excerpt of Tchaikovsky's Nocturne op. 19 no. 4:
> <http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/file/t3887/tchaik-noct.png> 
> After the cadenza, the key signature changes and the E-flat is being
> cancelled.
> This is the "old Russian standard" where the cancellation signs go before
> the barline.
> 
> LilyPond's default corresponds with the traditional practice (see Gould),
> the contemporary practice will do without cancelling signs, you normally
> won't see them in modern editions.
> 
Which is exactly my point about "step outside your normal music and
you'll see a completely different setup".

My "normal" is the key signature when the key changes. THAT'S IT. So I
have to make sure I know what the key is - the lack of a key signature
at the start of the line does not mean C major ... :-)

(My normal is that space is at a premium - if you can get more notes in
by leaving the key signature out, you do!)

Cheers,
Wol

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