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> From: Yakir Arbib <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2018 18:28:36 +0100
> Subject: The composition process doesn't get disrupted using Lily Pond?
> Dear list,
>
>
> First of all, happy New Year to everybody!
>
> I wanted to ask you a more general question related to composition and
> LilyPond:
>
> Can anyone here who is a composer and uses LilyPond to compose give me
> some little insight about the process?
>
> I mean if you are composing for more than one stave (I.E. piano and
> cello or string quartet) how do you keep track of the music if each
> stave has to be coded separately?
>
> Do you composers use Lily only after you notate the pieces on regular
> paper, or is it possible to make some sort of easier structure in Lily
> to make sense of a multi-instrument piece of music so your composition
> process is not constantly being interrupted by technicalities?
>
> I am visually impaired and don't have a primary way of notating the
> music "for myself" first.  Any tips would be incredibly appreciated!!
>
> Thank you very much and all the best in music!
>
> Yakir
>

Happy new year.

So, the tl;dr version is that, yes there can be blocks to the composition
process when using lilypond.  But it is often possible to bucket that work,
so you can get it done and get back to the composition process.  I think it
can be worth it since there are a lot of good features in lilypond to help
composition/arranging.

My composition process sometimes includes lilypond.  Generally speaking,
this is only at the point when I know the entire layout of the piece--at
least in terms of the overall structure, the sections, and their durations.

The way I work is to start with a "global" variable definition that
includes all the signatures, barlines, rehearsal marks, tempi, etc., filled
with spacers.

Then, I take that structure and create a blank version of the variable
(only the spacers, no barlines or additional content) and use that as a
starting point for creating a variable for each instrument/staff in the
score.  These different instrument variables get combined into score and
parts, which can be built, although at this point there is no content, just
structure.

Once I am through with that setup, then, I can start composing by adding
content to whichever instrument in whichever section I'd like.  I can build
the scores (including midi) with the work-in-progress, review them either
visually, or aurally (by importing the midi into a DAW).  I use tags to
limit the compilation to only the sections/instruments I am working on, or
need to see/hear, so it goes faster.

I tend to keep each instrument's music variable in its own file, so I need
to open that instrument's file when I need to add content.  If I am working
on multiple instruments at once, I open up each of those instruments' files
in multiple tabs in my editor and switch to the appropriate one.   If, for
example, it is section writing where each instrument has similar rhythms,
articulations and dynamics, I will just copy & paste the code from one
instrument variable to another, then update the pitches (or anything else)
as necessary.

The reason I like to start with the complete roadmap planned out is that it
can be a pain to update the durations.  Especially if there are many
instruments in the scores.

For example, if you then want to add a measure to one section of the song,
you need to add this in the global definitions, as well as in each
instrument/staff's music variable (and if you have chord symbols, it will
need to be updated there, too.)   So, there becomes a little more overhead
to modifying the duration of a section after the fact.  This type of thing
can be done, but it does feel like a break in the composition process since
you go from musical entry to lots of cutting & pasting in multiple files,
with all of the debugging to ensure that you did it correctly.

On the other hand, you can certainly use lilypond to sketch out ideas, not
worrying about, for example, how many bars will be in the intro while you
work on the main theme, or how many instruments will be in the ensemble
while you're trying to figure out the harmonic progression.  But at some
point you will need to stop working on a sketch, and proceed with
engraving.  At which point, you will have another break in the composition
process while you prepare your lilypond code for note entry.

So, generally, I would say that I tend to use lilypond after most of the
composition has been done.  But you can use it earlier in the process.
It's just that it is likely you will have to refactor your sketches into a
final engraving at some point, which will be a break from the composition
process.

In general, I do most of my core composition work before touching lilypond,
and do a lot of arranging from within lilypond.  This can be a very organic
process--sometimes I go back to the piano with pencil and paper to make
decisions, or to a DAW where I can loop a section and play along until I
figure out what I need, then go back to lilypond once I know what I'd like
and enter it there.


HTH,

Elaine Alt
415 . 341 .4954                                           "*Confusion is
highly underrated*"
[email protected]
Producer ~ Composer ~ Instrumentalist
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