From: Eric <eric.schis...@gmail.com>
Date: Monday, November 11, 2019 at 8:32 AM
To: <lilypond-user@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: 64 bit

On the assumption that it would have been pointed out if this link was 
dangerous phished spam (apologies, Mr Sorensen!!) I have decided to install 
this development version to replace my slashed-out 32-bit Lilyponds. Has anyone 
else - or are others who use Mac Catalina waiting for Lilypond 2.20 to possibly 
include a 64-bit version (if even then) linked from the Lilypond site? I can't 
seem to find much followup on this topic, and nothing? in our mailing list 
(maybe I need to search better) that mentions the below (rather unusually 
large, maybe because 64-bit?) unofficial development update.


Eric,

I’m not sure what you are waiting for.

Right now, we are at the point where there is no way for us to make a lilypond 
64-bit version because we need the Apple Xcode software, and the license allows 
it to be only used on Apple hardware.  We do not have Apple build hardware, and 
as a GNU project, it’s unlikely that using Apple build hardware for all of our 
distributions would be acceptable to the team.

I think  it’s possible that we could get an approved binary eventually hosted 
on the LilyPond website.  A couple of developers are trying to make that happen.

In the meantime, Hans has provided an installable distributable package created 
in MacPorts, which is at the link referred to below.  I’ve mirrored that link 
on a site that might be considered to be less dangerous for spam or phishing:

  https://www.et.byu.edu/~sorensen/lilypond-devel-2.19.83_2.mpkg

I’m only aware of one person who has installed that package, and they found 
that it works and it is a 64-bit package.

You can read more about this on the lilypond-devel archives:

https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2019-10/msg00059.html
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2019-10/msg00272.html

https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2019-10/msg00063.html

I think our best hope going forward is for Marnen to succeed in making a 64-bit 
lilypond.app.  I really hope he’s successful.

Thanks,

Carl



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From: Chris Crossen <ch...@crossen.net<mailto:ch...@crossen.net>>
To: Allan Kinnaird <akinna...@icloud.com<mailto:akinna...@icloud.com>>
Cc: Carl Sorensen <c_soren...@byu.edu<mailto:c_soren...@byu.edu>>, 
"lilypond-user@gnu.org<mailto:lilypond-user@gnu.org>" 
<lilypond-user@gnu.org<mailto:lilypond-user@gnu.org>>
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Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 17:29:39 -0700
Subject: Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina


> On Oct 17, 2019, at 4:48 PM, Allan Kinnaird via lilypond-user 
> <lilypond-user@gnu.org<mailto:lilypond-user@gnu.org>> wrote:
>
> Thanks, Carl - I haven’t upgraded to Catalina myself for exactly that reason 
> (and Lilypond is my only significant 32-bit app!). I’ll see if I can work out 
> how to use Hans’s version.
> Allan

I have Catalina installed on a Mac laptop. I downloaded the installer and am 
running it now. I’ll report back when I have some results to share.








---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Chris Crossen <ch...@crossen.net<mailto:ch...@crossen.net>>
To: Allan Kinnaird <akinna...@icloud.com<mailto:akinna...@icloud.com>>, Carl 
Sorensen <c_soren...@byu.edu<mailto:c_soren...@byu.edu>>, 
"lilypond-user@gnu.org<mailto:lilypond-user@gnu.org>" 
<lilypond-user@gnu.org<mailto:lilypond-user@gnu.org>>
Cc:
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Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2019 18:46:46 -0700
Subject: Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina


> On Oct 17, 2019, at 5:29 PM, Chris Crossen 
> <ch...@crossen.net<mailto:ch...@crossen.net>> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Carl - I haven’t upgraded to Catalina myself for exactly that reason 
>> (and Lilypond is my only significant 32-bit app!). I’ll see if I can work 
>> out how to use Hans’s version.
>> Allan
>
> I have Catalina installed on a Mac laptop. I downloaded the installer and am 
> running it now. I’ll report back when I have some results to share.

The install was successful. I didn’t know where it installed, but found it in 
/opt/lilypond .

It successfully generated a correct-looking pdf and midi (I’ll verify them 
tomorrow) from a single source file (no includes but 
english.ly<http://english.ly>). The file was already version 2.19. I’ll try 
using convert-ly and more complex files tomorrow.

Since this may not be of general interest, please give me some guidance on 
whether to continue posting to the group or confine it to those interested.












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From: Carl Sorensen <c_soren...@byu.edu<mailto:c_soren...@byu.edu>>
To: Chris Crossen <ch...@crossen.net<mailto:ch...@crossen.net>>, Allan Kinnaird 
<akinna...@icloud.com<mailto:akinna...@icloud.com>>, 
"lilypond-user@gnu.org<mailto:lilypond-user@gnu.org>" 
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Cc:
Bcc:
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2019 02:42:37 +0000
Subject: Re: Lilypond on OS X Catalina


On 10/17/19, 7:46 PM, "Chris Crossen" 
<ch...@crossen.net<mailto:ch...@crossen.net>> wrote:



    > On Oct 17, 2019, at 5:29 PM, Chris Crossen 
<ch...@crossen.net<mailto:ch...@crossen.net>> wrote:
    >
    >> Thanks, Carl - I haven’t upgraded to Catalina myself for exactly that 
reason (and Lilypond is my only significant 32-bit app!). I’ll see if I can 
work out how to use Hans’s version.
    >> Allan
    >
    > I have Catalina installed on a Mac laptop. I downloaded the installer and 
am running it now. I’ll report back when I have some results to share.

    The install was successful. I didn’t know where it installed, but found it 
in /opt/lilypond .

That's where it was supposed to be.

    It successfully generated a correct-looking pdf and midi (I’ll verify them 
tomorrow) from a single source file (no includes but 
english.ly<http://english.ly>). The file was already version 2.19. I’ll try 
using convert-ly and more complex files tomorrow.

Yes, it was made from the latest development release, 2.19.83

    Since this may not be of general interest, please give me some guidance on 
whether to continue posting to the group or confine it to those interested.


 Please report your experiences.

Here's some test code that has been known to fail on 32-bit lilypond 
executables, but succeed on 64-bit linux executables.

%%%% Start of code

\version "2.19.82"
{
  \time 4/4
  \repeat unfold 1000 { c4 d e f } % TEN PAGES of music
  \repeat unfold 1000 { f1 } % + SIX MORE PAGES of music
  \repeat unfold 1000 { c4 d e f } % BUT WHEN ADDING MORE PAGES, fail NOW
}

%%%%% End of code

I expect it to work, but it would be nice to get a confirmation.

It's nice to know that this package can be installed.

Thanks,

Arl











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From: Carl Sorensen <c_soren...@byu.edu<mailto:c_soren...@byu.edu>>
To: "marco.massobrio" 
<marco.massob...@gmail.com<mailto:marco.massob...@gmail.com>>, 
"lilypond-user@gnu.org<mailto:lilypond-user@gnu.org>" 
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Cc:
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Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2019 02:47:13 +0000
Subject: Re: 64 bit

From: "marco.massobrio" 
<marco.massob...@gmail.com<mailto:marco.massob...@gmail.com>>
Date: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 at 11:12 PM
To: <lilypond-user@gnu.org<mailto:lilypond-user@gnu.org>>
Subject: 64 bit


I Havel installed catalina 10.15 on my Mac andiamo lilypond 2.19.83 don't run
HELP!!!!!


Install the package from here:  https://web2.storegate.com/share/oCQjV4r

HTH,

Carl

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