Andrew, Malte, Thanks for the opposing views!
Andrew, my point was that if two extremely well-known composers use a dynamic symbol, it's hardly non-standard, which is why I think it should be included even if it is a synonym for rfz. Malte, I think I've seen all of these (but I can't remember where I saw pf - was it Mozart somewhere?) but extremely rarely. Schubert has fffz - how he managed that on an 1820s piano without breaking it I can't imagine. I wouldn’t suggest adding this though as it's very rare. I agree about \sp and \spp - what on earth are they meant to mean - a sudden quiet note in the middle of louder ones? Not a common musical gesture. Best regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com ------------------------- Sunday, December 22, 2019, 6:06:01 AM, lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org wrote: > Send lilypond-user mailing list submissions to > lilypond-user@gnu.org > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org > You can reach the person managing the list at > lilypond-user-ow...@gnu.org > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of lilypond-user digest..." > Today's Topics: > 1. Re: convert-ly problems (Knute Snortum) > 2. Re: A suggestion - add rf to built-in > dynamics (Andrew Bernard) > 3. Re: Notes or chords sustained with a pedal (David R) > 4. Re: Notes or chords sustained with a pedal (Aaron Hill) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2019 14:45:06 -0800 > From: Knute Snortum <ksnor...@gmail.com> > To: peter.gen...@sunscales.co.uk > Cc: Lilypond Users <lilypond-user@gnu.org> > Subject: Re: convert-ly problems > Message-ID: > > <CALmeJxRPCRd=3FZVoHxinPYziXk7Tney_qP=jAT4+cTf79ZX=a...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" -->>C:\"Program Files (x86)"\LilyPond\usr\bin\python.exe<-- > This looks like the quotes are in the wrong place. > --- > Knute Snortum > (via Gmail) > On Sat, Dec 21, 2019 at 4:32 AM Peter Gentry > <peter.gen...@sunscales.myzen.co.uk> wrote: >> I spoke too soon. >> C:\WINDOWS\system32>convert-ly >> C:\WINDOWS\system32>C:\"Program Files (x86)"\LilyPond\usr\bin\python.exe >> C:\"Program Files (x86)"\LilyPond\usr\bin\convert-ly.py >> C:\Program Files (x86)\LilyPond\usr\bin\python.exe: can't open file >> 'C:"Program': [Errno 22] Invalid argument >> C:\WINDOWS\system32> >> This did work first time but now another wonderful windows surprise. >> From: Peter Gentry <peter.gen...@sunscales.myzen.co.uk> >> Sent: 21 December 2019 12:02 >> To: Lilypond Users (lilypond-user@gnu.org) <lilypond-user@gnu.org> >> Cc: 'ksnor...@gmail.com' <ksnor...@gmail.com> >> Subject: convert-ly problems >> Thanks Knute >> However the problem for windows (as usual) is more difficult. In addition >> to the PATH I needed the following to set up the association. >> First get check the associated name of the python file type. >> In an admin command prompt run the following >> assoc {Python} result “no association……” >> I created one >> Python="C:\Program Files (x86)\LilyPond\usr\bin\python.exe" "%1" >> Now I look in Default Apps and there is PYTHON >> SUCCESS! >> Now convert-ly.py works >> I could have use something Lily specific as the association PYTHONLILY say >> maybe I will later. >> I expect I will have to do something similar if I go back to PYTHON proper. >> Isn’t Windows wonderful ???? >> Regards Peter > ------------------------------ > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2019 10:23:46 +1100 > From: Andrew Bernard <andrew.bern...@gmail.com> > To: lilypond-user Mailinglist <lilypond-user@gnu.org> > Subject: Re: A suggestion - add rf to built-in dynamics > Message-ID: > > <CAK5QfnX7_2j-p5C8GmgNZbTQo4vF=smobqr2zufl_x4y-9z...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > Hi Peter, > Well I have a library file with over 150 custom dynamics, for use with > engraving new complexity school scores. It's a big file, with all > sorts of rare dynamics. I see no need to push non-standard or rare > dynamics on everybody. Just make an include file for your score and > add 'rf'. One could argue that the original > composers are in error, or > it's an obsolete convention, and perhaps this would mislead modern > players anyway (the infinite discussion of the urtext!). > I don't see a need for rf to be added to the core set. > [And amusingly I have all the ones Malte > suggested. and lots of marks > like 'f (poco)' and similar which is actually commonly found, and yet > does not need to be in the core.] > Andrew > On Sat, 21 Dec 2019 at 23:42, Peter Toye > <lilyp...@ptoye.com> wrote: >> May I suggest adding 'rf' to the built-in dynamics? Beethoven and Brahms >> used it quite a lot, even if it is synonymous with 'rfz' (pedants might >> disagree). As did some other, lesser, composers (one of whose music I am >> currently engraving). >> A far as I can see, it just needs adding >> rfz = #(make-dynamic-script "rfz") >> to dynamic-scripts-init.ly >> There's an easy workaround of course - just put that line somewhere in your >> own music, but to me it seems as though it's common enough to build it into >> LilyPond. >> Regards, >> Peter >> mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com >> www.ptoye.com > ------------------------------ > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2019 15:14:48 -0800 > From: David R <davidandrewrog...@gmail.com> > To: lilypond-user <lilypond-user@gnu.org> > Subject: Re: Notes or chords sustained with a pedal > Message-ID: > > <cacv55ytrgoy4frprp4d9hcqvvacwzwipkto6x+go38bx5hj...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > On Friday, December 20, 2019, Robert Blackstone > <blackstone.rob...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> Dear all, >> I’m presently transcribing some piano-scores in which schords, sustained > with a pedal are notated in a way had not seen > before (see screenshot). >> I would like to copy it but I have no idea how to do it. >> I would be grateful for any advice. > The "Clumsy Hack Department" says you might > create some invisible notes for > those added ties to attach to. > --
