Hello Eby,

Your note about extra-spacing-width is the thing I talked about before. It 
won’t do the right 
thing if the note would not vertically collide with the neighboring notes. It 
doesn’t work with 
\newSpacingSection because spacing is only taken into account between objects 
in the same 
Spacing Section.

The former issue might be addressable be overriding some stuff, but please 
think about the 
workaround of using skips as grace notes for now.

About you comments:
@1: (spacing between aes and d not much improved.)
Exactly the issue described above. \tweak extra-spacing-width tweaks the 
Spacing of the 
note heads, and the next note head colliding with the „lane” of the aes in 
mention is the ges 
three notes lates. So you are overriding the distance to this ges instead of 
the next note.
Using \tweak Stem.extra-spacing-width will solve this problem, because the 
Stems have 
larger „lanes”.

@2: (unable to get small spacing before c.)
As the c is in a new spacing section, it will not take spacing to the previous 
section into 
consideration.

Regards,
Valentin



Many thanks Kieren & Valentin,

Have used a mix of \newSpacingSection and \tweak extra-spacing-width to achieve 
something close to what is possible with use of "skip". Still it's not 
perfect(output attached).

Using \tweak extra-spacing-width alone only works for the first 2 sections on 
n32 notes.

And the other problem is \tweak have not much effect when used with 
\newSpacingSection. 
I'm not sure if this is due to the use of \magnifyMusic or the sheer number of 
notes in the 
section, not much difference even with \break after the manual \bar (please see 
comments).

thanks,eby

******************************\version "2.20.0"

global = {\key des \major\time 4/4}

violin = \relative c' {\global\cadenzaOn

\newSpacingSection\override Score.SpacingSpanner.spacing-increment = #2

aes2\fermata %%spacerequired

\newSpacingSection\revert Score.SpacingSpanner.spacing-increment


\magnifyMusic 0.61 {g32 \([aes b c d ees b c d ees ges] %%spacerequired\tweak 
extra-
spacing-width #'(-2 . 3) %%spacing between aes and d not much improved.aes32\) 
[d,!32 \
(ees ges aes bes c des ees f ges aes bes]}%%spacerequire\tweak 
extra-spacing-width #'(-1 . 0) 
%%unable to get small spacing before c.\newSpacingSection\override 
Score.SpacingSpanner.spacing-increment = #2

c8-.\)

\newSpacingSection\revert Score.SpacingSpanner.spacing-increment%%spacerequired

\magnifyMusic 0.61 {\newSpacingSection\override 
Score.SpacingSpanner.spacing-increment 
= #2

aes,,8-^ [c-^ ees-^ aes-^ c-^ ees-^ c-^ ees-^ aes-^ c-^ ees-^]

\newSpacingSection\revert Score.SpacingSpanner.spacing-increment%
%spacerequired\ottava #1\revert Score.SpacingSpanner.common-shortest-
duration\override Script.staff-padding = #2.5 {\stemDown aes2\trill \pp 
a2\trill bes2\trill 
c2\trill \fermata } \bar "|"\override Script.staff-padding = #0}

\cadenzaOff

des1~des2\fermata\ottava #0r \fermata \bar "|."

}

pianoVoice = \relative c'' {\global

\cadenzaOn <ees aes>1\fermata r1 r1 s2 r1 s4 \bar"|" \cadenzaOfff2 (f4-. 
f-.)f2\fermata 
r\fermata \bar "|."}


violinPart = \new Staff \with {instrumentName = "Violin"shortInstrumentName = 
"Vl."midiInstrument = "violin"} \violin


\score {<<\violinPart\pianoVoice>>\layout { }}

******************************


On Friday, 12 June, 2020, 12:32:53 am IST, Valentin Petzel <[email protected]> 
wrote: 




Hi Kieren,

Note that doing it this way has the same problem I explained before if two 
stems a 
considerably vertically apart (as we just regulate the horizontal space to the 
neighboring 
Note, which is not nescessarily the next note.

Regards,Valentin



Am Donnerstag, 11. Juni 2020, 20:51:48 CEST schrieb Kieren MacMillan:> Hi Eby,> 
> > I'm 
looking for to achieve something like the output without using> > "skips". I 
plan to run the 
midi output thru VST instrument, thus adding> > skips is a big no. The example 
is achieved 
using "skip".> > \version "2.19.83"> { c'4 4 \tweak extra-spacing-width #'(-10 
. 0) 4 4 }> > Hope 
that helps!> Kieren.> > p.s. This kind of thing is EXACTLY why I use the 
edition-engraver so> 
heavily!  =) ________________________________> > Kieren MacMillan, composer 
(he/him/his)> ‣ 
website: www.kierenmacmillan.info> ‣ email: [email protected][1] 

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