It seems we can't be too pedantic here.
Based on the OP's situation,
one can imaging that the original piece might have looked like:
\relative {
c'4 d e f g a b c
cs, ds es fs gs as bs cs
}
Then the attempt to transpose down a 3rd:
\transpose c a, {
\relative {
c'4 d e f g a b c
cs, ds es fs gs as bs cs
}
}
Then--and here is the crucial part--they decided to break up the original
\relative into two expressions, so they could transpose one of them
enharmonically.
Before applying the enharmonic transposition,
here is what the new structure would look like:
\relative {
c'4 d e f g a b c
{ cs, ds es fs gs as bs cs }
}
Note that the inner { } is treated as a continuation of the first relative
expression. This can be seen in two ways: the first { cs, } is in the
octave of middle C and not two octaves below, which is what \fixed { cs, }
would be. Likewise, the ds is a step above cs, not a 7th below.
However, this is lazy, since it is not explicitly saying the inner { } is
relative, it is relying on the fact that it is nested in a relative
expression.
So, you run into problems when you add the \transpose before it, or do any
number of other things with it, like cut & paste into other expressions, or
call other functions with it as an argument.
The \transpose function now views the { } expression as fixed, and it is no
longer relative to the context of the containing \relative { }
The non-lazy approach would be to supply the \relative when breaking up
this expression.
We can debate about whether using the default \relative { } versus
\relative c { } is better, but that is besides the point.
The main point is that you need to start a new \relative expression, and
when you do so, you need to specify the octave of the first note again,
since it is no longer relative to the previous note.
So, for breaking up the first expression into two, you would want either of
these:
\relative {
c'4 d e f g a b c
\relative { cs'4 ds es fs gs as bs cs }
}
\relative c' {
c4 d e f g a b c
\relative c' { cs4 ds es fs gs as bs cs }
}
That is all that is needed, to be able to add \tranpsose and have it work
properly. The transposition works as intended, once you make sure the
notes you are transposing are defined correctly.
\transpose c a, {
\relative {
c'4 d e f g a b c
\transpose as bf \relative { cs'4 ds es fs gs as bs cs }
}
}
The core issue here is that a relative expression was broken up lazily.
Then when used as the argument to \transpose, it was silently and
inadvertently cast to a fixed expression.
The key takeaway is to be explicit when breaking up relative expressions.
I don't think there is anything wrong with \transpose.
Elaine Alt
415 . 341 .4954 "*Confusion is
highly underrated*"
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