Hi Guy; May I converse with you regarding this off-list?
I feel quite dense :-( Thanks, Ken On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 6:02 PM Hwaen Ch'uqi <[email protected]> wrote: > > Oh, brilliant!!! Thanks so much, Guy! I wish I knew this a long time ago! > > Hwaen Ch'uqi > > > On 9/14/21, Guy Stalnaker <[email protected]> wrote: > > Sorry, that's not terribly clear ... > > > > Add "--output-24bit" to the TIMIDITY commandline (there may be a way to > > put it in the timidity config, but I just used the CLI anyway) > > > > %> timidity --output-24bit -Ow <midifile> > > > > Sorry about that. > > > > Guy > > > > On 9/14/21 6:54 PM, Guy Stalnaker wrote: > >> > >> Yes!! I used to have that all the time when using timidity from the > >> CLI to play MIDI and then convert to WAV/FLAC. > >> > >> Now to see if I can remember how to fix it. > >> > >> AH! This ... > >> > >> From: > >> https://henkelmann.eu/2013/03/fixing-timidity-crackling-output-in-gnu-solfege/ > >> > >> add |--output-24bit| to the options for that entry (my complete > >> options for timidity are |--output-24bit -idqq %s|) > >> > >> That "--output-24bit" is what worked for me. > >> > >> Regards. > >> > >> On 9/14/21 6:45 PM, Hwaen Ch'uqi wrote: > >> > >>> Oh, that's all right! That overall placement of folder did look a bit > >>> "interesting" to me. > >>> > >>> But since we are on the subject of midi/timidity, I wonder if you or > >>> someone else could address this: I have noticed that there is much > >>> more crackling (not sure how else to describe it) going on in the > >>> sound when playing the midi files. Any idea what might be causing > >>> that? > >>> > >>> Thanks! > >>> > >>> Hwaen Ch'uqi > >>> > >>> > >>> On 9/14/21, Guy Stalnaker<[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> I did not intend to contradict what you wrote, simply to show that > >>>> kubuntu has a more complicated set of configuration files that all > >>>> interact with each other, rather than using a single timidity.cfg file > >>>> (which was all that there was many years ago). > >>>> > >>>> I apologize if I gave the impression I was correcting you. I *agree* > >>>> with you completely. > >>>> > >>>> Regards. > >>>> > >>>> On 9/14/21 6:29 PM, Hwaen Ch'uqi wrote: > >>>>> Greetings Guy, > >>>>> > >>>>> Perhaps I am missing something, but the folder contents that you > >>>>> display don't seem to contradict what I wrote. > >>>>> > >>>>> Hwaen Ch'uqi > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On 9/14/21, Guy Stalnaker<[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>> Thanks Hwaen Ch'uqi! That's not at all how kubuntu does this: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> √ /mnt/NAS326_Music/music/Radio Drama > ll /etc/timidity/ > >>>>>> total 480K > >>>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 230K Nov 11 2016 fluidr3_gm.cfg > >>>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4.7K Nov 11 2016 fluidr3_gs.cfg > >>>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4.6K Sep 22 2006 freepats.cfg > >>>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 225K Aug 1 2019 timgm6mb.cfg > >>>>>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1.2K Jun 27 2018 timidity.cfg > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Just people making things more complicated than they need to be. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Guy > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 9/14/21 5:49 PM, Hwaen Ch'uqi wrote: > >>>>>>> Greetings Ken, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I do not use a mac; I use linux. However, I have a feeling that the > >>>>>>> principle for this is the same. Timidity reads its settings from a > >>>>>>> file called /etc/timidity.cfg, and those settings can be changed. > >>>>>>> Whatever soundfont you wish to use, you should be able to download > >>>>>>> it > >>>>>>> and tell timidity.cfg where it is located. I use the freepats.cfg > >>>>>>> soundfont. The relevant little paragraph in my timidity.cfg looks > >>>>>>> like > >>>>>>> this: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> # By default, try to use the instrument patches from freepats: > >>>>>>> source /etc/timidity/freepats.cfg > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Any other lines that begin with the word "source" I comment with the > >>>>>>> pound sign so that timidity ignores it. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I hope this helps. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Hwaen Ch'uqi > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 9/14/21, Guy Stalnaker<[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>>> Ken, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> You are SOOOO close :-) > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> The issue is neither Lilipond nor its midi output. MIDI is simply a > >>>>>>>> specification for musical "events" describing pitch, duration, etc. > >>>>>>>> It's > >>>>>>>> up to a program that understands MIDI to make actual sound. That is > >>>>>>>> typically done via a synthesizer (dedicated synth module, keyboard, > >>>>>>>> or > >>>>>>>> other MIDI-capable equipment) or via an application that knows how > >>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>> use a soundfont. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> You're getting nice sound with Alda not because Alda is making > >>>>>>>> "better" > >>>>>>>> MIDI, but because of the FluidR3 soundfont (which has surprisingly > >>>>>>>> decent sounds for many, though not all, of its General Midi > >>>>>>>> sounds). > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> When I was using a MacBook and LP/Frescobaldi, I used > >>>>>>>> fluidsynth/QSynth > >>>>>>>> configured to use the FluidR3 sound font (but this was some time > >>>>>>>> ago, > >>>>>>>> at > >>>>>>>> least 7-8 years). On Windows I use CoolSoftVirtualMidiSynth. On > >>>>>>>> Linux > >>>>>>>> (my current desktop) I use the fluidsynth/QSynth apps. Both of them > >>>>>>>> are > >>>>>>>> configured to use the FluidR3 soundfont. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I *know* that you can configure timidity to use a different > >>>>>>>> soundfont > >>>>>>>> than its default (which does indeed suck). In fact, timidity on my > >>>>>>>> Kubuntu 20.04 desktop is so configured. But this is by default and > >>>>>>>> involves ways that timidity is installed on kubuntu, so it's not > >>>>>>>> easy > >>>>>>>> for me to tell you how to do it using this setup. But, I'm fairly > >>>>>>>> certain Google will provide you options for getting timidity to use > >>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>> FluidR3 sound font. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> See this Google search: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> https://www.google.com/search?q=tell+timidity+to+use+alternate+soundfont&newwindow=1&sxsrf=AOaemvKkuOn8r1q2lCX0swD3GgF5Q5AHGg%3A1631650995863&ei=swRBYY6RNJqztQaBhLRw&oq=t&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMYADIECCMQJzIECCMQJzIECCMQJzIFCAAQkQIyBQgAEJECMgQIABBDMg4ILhCABBCxAxDHARCjAjIECAAQQzIFCAAQgAQyEQguEIAEELEDEIMBEMcBENEDOgcIABBHELADOgcIABCwAxBDOg0ILhCxAxDHARCvARBDOgoIABCxAxCDARBDOgcIABCxAxBDSgQIQRgAUN74EFj_gBFg7pMRaAJwAngAgAGkAYgBwgKSAQMwLjKYAQCgAQHIAQrAAQE&sclient=gws-wiz > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I know nothing about GarageBand, however Google can likely help you > >>>>>>>> learn if you can configure it to use alternate soundfonts. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Hope this helps. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Guy > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> P.S. A nice thing about using an app and soundfont YOU specify is > >>>>>>>> that > >>>>>>>> you can change the soundfont used. If you've the money you can > >>>>>>>> purchase > >>>>>>>> incredibly good soundfonts (if you like) though there are dozens > >>>>>>>> available for free. One of my favorite is an English Organ sound > >>>>>>>> font > >>>>>>>> with quite good sounds. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 9/14/21 3:13 PM, Kenneth Wolcott wrote: > >>>>>>>>> HI All; > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> This is really not a Lilypond question, but I'm sure you > >>>>>>>>> have > >>>>>>>>> some > >>>>>>>>> helpful information, as you always do :-) > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> midi sound quality help needed > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I'm on a Mac. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I'm using Lilypond 2.22.0 via MacPorts. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I'm using Garageband as my midi player, with Timidity (from > >>>>>>>>> home > >>>>>>>>> brew) as an alternative. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I don't do rock music, synthesizers, sound effects, etc. I > >>>>>>>>> do > >>>>>>>>> traditional classical music. I do some pop, and folks music, but > >>>>>>>>> in > >>>>>>>>> a > >>>>>>>>> classical manner... > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I'm not asking for a professional live performance output > >>>>>>>>> quality > >>>>>>>>> from midi, but most often the midi output sounds really bad. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Now here's an interesting twist to the story. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I installed Alda from home brew which is a more rudimentary > >>>>>>>>> text-based musical scoring system. I also installed the suggested > >>>>>>>>> alternative soundfont (FluidR3). > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> The Alda coding is much more rudimentary than what Lilypond > >>>>>>>>> offers, > >>>>>>>>> so I'm not in any way going to abandon Lilypond!!! > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> But the sound quality of what comes out of playing the Alda > >>>>>>>>> scripts > >>>>>>>>> is phenomenal (!) compared to what I get out of GarageBand and/or > >>>>>>>>> Timidity. I've even tried MidiAndMusicXmlPlayer as an alternative > >>>>>>>>> midi player. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> How do I improve my midi output quality? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance for your advice, > >>>>>>>>> Ken Wolcott > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> “Happiness is the meaning and the purpose of life, the whole aim > >>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>> end > >>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>> human existence.” > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ― Aristotle > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> > >>>>>> “Happiness is the meaning and the purpose of life, the whole aim and > >>>>>> end > >>>>>> of > >>>>>> human existence.” > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ― Aristotle > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> -- > >>>> > >>>> “Happiness is the meaning and the purpose of life, the whole aim and end > >>>> of > >>>> human existence.” > >>>> > >>>> ― Aristotle > >>>> > >>>> > >> -- > >> -- > >> > >> “Happiness is the meaning and the purpose of life, the whole aim and end > >> of human existence.” > >> > >> ― Aristotle > > > > -- > > -- > > > > “Happiness is the meaning and the purpose of life, the whole aim and end of > > human existence.” > > > > ― Aristotle > > > >
