Gould says all grace note have stems up, except (1) when there are two parts on 
a staff, (2) in a double stemmed group, (3) when the group is on the beat, 
sharing a note head with a main note whose stem is up.


Paul



 From:   Jean Abou Samra <[email protected]> 
 To:   Knute Snortum <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> 
 Sent:   11/06/2022 23:58 
 Subject:   Re: Stem direction of grace notes when main note is stemDown 

 
 
Le 12/06/2022 à 00:52, Knute Snortum a écrit : 
> I'm confused, which often means I'm missing something, so bear with me. 
> 
> I have always thought that a grace note's stem is up no matter what. 
> But LilyPond's default is to engrave a grace note's stem down if the 
> main note's stem is down: 
> 
> { \voiceTwo c'4 c' c' \acciaccatura d'8 c'4 } 
> 
> ...which forces one to do something like this: 
> 
> { \voiceTwo c'4 c' c' \acciaccatura { \stemUp d'8 } \stemDown c'4 } 
> 
> Even then, the slur goes from the head of the grace note to the tip of 
> the stem in the main note, when I think it looks better when the slur 
> goes head to head. 
> 
> LilyPond has engraved grace notes down stem when the main note is down 
> stem since at least 2.18.2, but this seems wrong.  Shouldn't the 
> default be always stem up? 
 
 
 
What would you then do with 
 
<< 
   { g'4 g' g' \acciaccatura a'8 g'4 } 
   \\ 
   { c'4 c' c' \acciaccatura d'8 c'4 } 
 >> 
 
? 
 
I don't have Gould at hand right now, but my clue is that the 
rule reads: in single-stemmed writing, grace notes are always 
up, even if their natural direction would be down, as in 
 
{ c''4 c'' c'' \acciaccatura d''8 c''4 } 
 
In double-stemmed writing, however, I don't believe it's 
standard to do that. 
 
Best, 
Jean 
 
 
 

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