Werner LEMBERG <w...@gnu.org> writes:

>>> I tried
>>>
>>> ```
>>> \markup \with-dimensions #empty-interval #empty-interval {
>>>   ... }
>>> ```
>>>
>>> and the padding to the next score gets still applied.  I suspect
>>> that the 'empty interval' trick only works for stuff within a score
>>> but not on the top level.
>> 
>> I'd be tempted to call that a bug: it runs contrary to the idea of
>> "only spacing" in markup.  Of course, having implemented that
>> concept myself, you could consider me to blame, and also there would
>> be the question of just how to position a watermark when the spacing
>> specific to its own kind of vertical element is not being applied.
>> Probably just next to the preceding element.
>
> It would be cool if this worked some day.  However, the next best
> thing would probably be to allow negative widths and heights for
> `\markup` boxes (if set with `\with-dimensions` and friends).

\vspace/\hspace can go backwards.

-- 
David Kastrup

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