On Thu, 22 Jan 2026, Kieren MacMillan wrote:

> as soon as the padding/spacing is tight enough that the descenders of a
> text would collide/overlap with a grob below the text!
>
> I personally think the stencil extent (or at least skylines) should
> *always* take descenders into account — to avoid collisions — BUT there
> should be a way align texts to a baseline, set a fixed leading, etc.
>

Thank you, Kieren, for this helpful clarification. I’m new to the language
of “baseline,” “stencil extent,” “skylines,” and the like.

I definitely agree that skylines should take descenders into account, to
avoid collisions!

If I am understanding the vocabulary correctly … I think that I am
suggesting that by default, markups should have the same baselines as
objects to their left and right.

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