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Mark
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At 15:50 on 09 May 2026, Wol wrote:
> On 09/05/2026 15:07, Kieren MacMillan wrote:
>> Hi Wol,
>>
>>> There's a lot of those things around - they're called brains ...
>> And when “brains” break copyright, the humans attached to them are often 
>> sued.
>> ;)

> :-) And very often they're not, too.
> Or the plaintiff didn't realise their own work, too, was
> an infringement...

> I haven't yet heard of the humans attached to an AI being
> sued yet, but I don't see why they shouldn't be. All I've
> heard of so far, though, is "unclean hands" tricking AIs
> into producing copyrighted works.

> (The other difficulty with suing the people behind AIs is
> they're almost never real people, they're legal fictions
> aka companies. What's new?)

>> The rest of your post is, unfortunately, full of logical
>> fallacies I don’t have time to unravel for you.
>>
> Well, I think that just about sums up Copyright Law, not just my argument, 
> then.

> For the record, I'm pretty much against AI for a whole
> bunch of reasons, not least because I think humans *often*
> do a much better job (which is why I don't use it at work,
> apart from one instance so far "what is wrong with my
> code?").

> But none of what I think is wrong about AI boils down to
> copyright. Just like humans, AIs can read, "learn", and
> write (which may or may not be copyrightable, which may or
> may not infringe).

> The two big problems with AI as I see it are humans
> create, AIs hallucinate (although sometimes it's hard to
> tell the difference :-), and many of the people behind it
> don't give a shit about the grief they're causing so long
> as they can make a buck or two - what's new there...

> Cheers,
> Wol

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