On 9/21/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >-- Original Message -- > >Subject: half-dot > >From: David Bobroff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: [email protected] > >Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 15:09:12 +0000 > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >Just posting this as general interest. > > > >Next week we (Iceland Symphony) will be playing Kalevi Aho's flute > >concerto. I noticed an odd notation. In a 5/4 measure there was a > >whole note immediately followed by a small x (looks more like a > >multiplication symbol) and no other notes in the measure. I wondered > >what it was. I thought perhaps it was a 'half-dot'. Then I saw a 5/8 > >measure with a half-note immediately followed by the same little x. > >Obviously it's a 'half-dot.' I've never seen nor heard of such a thing. > Hi, > just few weeks ago, I saw this notation in the music of Veli-Matti Puumala, > another finnish composer (like Aho). > I don't think it's so popular to become a standard, and also the piece in > which I saw the symbol is handwritten.. Personally I never used this notation > and I've asked to some composers and nobody use it. > > >I think this music was prepared with either Sibelius or Finale but I'm > >not sure which (one clue; when slurs/ties pass through time signatures > >they 'white out' as they cross them). > > So, in my experience, is not Sibelius for sure. I don't remember Finale so > well but I don't think it has this feature. > > > I used to use Finale but I never > >encountered this sign before. > > > >Just thought I'd toss this out there. If it is, or is becoming, a > >standard notation perhaps LilyPond ought to be able to do it, too. > > > >-David > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >lilypond-user mailing list > >[email protected] > >http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user >
FWIW I used to use a *left* dot (rather than a dot on the right) to indicate "exactly a quarter of the rhythmic value of something" in my own music. Like the Finnish x-dot you're describing, the left-dot had the advantage of letting you notate 5 of something without ties. But it was impractical. Performers may or may not read the score prefaces and how do left- and right-dots interac? To say nothing of the engraving difficulties of ties between possibly left- and right-dotted notes ... Then there's the issue of generality: if you're going to create a glyph to stand for "exactly an additional quarter of the rhythmic value of something" then why not a glyph for "exactly an addition third of the rhythmic value of something" or a 1/9th or 2/11th, etc ... better to do something more general ... a good job for numbers, not glyphs. -- Trevor Bača [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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