On 3/16/06, Marcus Macauley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 09:29:43 -0800, Trevor Bača"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > On 3/16/06, Arno Waschk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> dear list, > >> > >> for a contemporary music score i need hairpin having a circles around > >> their tip, indicating cresc./descresc. from/into silence. > >> > >> what is the easiest way to enter these into the score? or does this need > >> to be implemented yet? i did not find that mentioned in the docs. > > > > I'm interested in this kind of 'al niente' / 'de niente' thing, too, > > but haven't had a chance to figure out the right settings yet. > > > > If it turns out to be difficult to do currently, maybe we could > > sponsor together once the 2.9 dev cycle starts. > > Another way of notating this, which I prefer, but also I think needs to be > implemented, is to follow the decresc. (or precede the cresc.) with a > bold/italic "n" or "n.", for niente.
Does #(make-dynamic-script "n.") not help? (As in the examples in 8.1.8?) > At least one music font/notation program, I forget which, includes for > this purpose a letter "n" in the same style as mrsfp for dynamics. So > perhaps the ideal way to implement this latter kind of niente notation > (the hairpin circle tip being the other kind) would be to create a new > dynamic mark, called "n", and syntax analogous to the other dynamics, thus: > > c2~\> c~ c r\n > > ...would do a hairpin decresc. to niente, with the "n" marked under the > rest (and, like any other dynamic mark, signalling an end of the hairpin). > > Perhaps, then, there could be a setting which would decide whether that > syntax prints a dynamic letter "n" on the one hand, or modifies the > hairpin with a circle at the tip, on the other hand. > > Then one could switch globally between the two methods of notating niente > without rewriting each instance. > > The syntax for a cresc. from silence would have to be a little less > elegant, though maybe simply: > > c2~\n\< c~ c\! r > > And for consistency, the first example could be modified to: > > c2~\> c~ c r\!\n > > ...explicitly ending the descrescendo. > > I don't know whether this sort of syntax is practical; it's just the first > thing that comes to mind. > > Maybe more practical is 1) a setting to switch on/off circles at the point > of a hairpin, for the first method of notation, and 2) a new dynamic > letter, "n" (and command "\n"), for the second method. > > As an alternative to the second method -- and a perhaps more conventional > one, recommended by Kurt Stone -- niente can be notated not with the > dynamic letter "n" but with the italic "n." (this time with a period). I've also used a dynamic-font "s" for this purpose (abbr. "silence") in Finale, but eventually backed away from the notation because it just seemed too English-centered and too similar to "s" for "subito" in other contexts. > This should be possible to do now, but I can't figure out how to switch > off the boldface: > > n = #(make-dynamic-script (markup #:text #:italic "n." ) ) % This makes > the text bold-italic. > > n = #(make-dynamic-script (markup #:text "n." ) ) % In fact, even this > makes it bold-italic, as if that's the default text font style. Why? And > how to switch it off? > > (I'm using make-dynamic-script, rather than a regular \markup command, > because the "n." needs to be aligned with the hairpin.) > > Thanks in advance for any feedback on the "niente" implementation/syntax > (I too might be willing to co-sponsor it) and/or on this latter problem of > bold-italic text. > > Marcus -- Trevor Bača [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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