If you are very focused on VST plugins and want an easy way to have
everything, check this distro/respo. Comes with ArdourVST 32 and 64bit and
tons of plugins:

http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/


2010/7/22 Johnny Ferguson <[email protected]>

> I can somewhat see the analogy, but I dislike this view as it almost
> assumes that linux audio is somehow impervious to flaws. When it's not
> flawed though, it's somehow golden.
>
> I disagree with his statement that VST doesn't offer much. For effects he
> could be right, but in terms of VSTi he's quite wrong. (and on that, I
> question how much he understands VST). Until we get LV2, we'll be forced to
> rely on WINE hacks, or to scramble through source code intended for windows
> hosts. In the end, I don't see VST as relevant any more, and it's a waste of
> effort to get it working on linux. The standard was only ever intended for
> effects, and the implementation of instruments is a mess. I only defend VST
> in any capacity because it works extremely well on the platforms it was
> intended for, regardless for my feelings towards its implementation. Until
> LV2 comes around, it's the best available. (Though JACK-Rack has some pretty
> good effects as well, I love the saturator effects, and arctan distortion is
> pure bliss)
>
> I also don't share his situation as I'm rather familiar with computers.
> I've been using them for a little over 16 years now, have done programming,
> have studied computer science at the university level (which was loaded with
> a little too much theory for my liking). I know how computers work. I've
> written working code in languages from Assembly to Scheme.
>
> Despite that, I don't think any level of technical brilliance can save
> programs from bad design (this is from a usability perspective). A trait my
> other technical friends find me kind of odd for, but I'm a big picture kind
> of guy.
>
> I don't feel so strongly for linux audio that I lose any sleep over it. I
> paid 75 EUR for a copy of renoise, and it's been sitting on my hard drive
> unused. I associate more with the artist personality, so I don't feel
> compelled to write code every time I feel like being expressive. Nor do I
> feel like reading through 20 pages of documentation that is unmaintained to
> see how I can cobble things together that through historical precedent,
> could be achieved in easier ways.
>
> I think when linux audio becomes usable, I'll hear about it. For what it's
> worth, it will stomp that crap out of windows and mac. I have yet to give
> qTractor a try, so I may revise earlier opinions, but if my experience has
> shown anything, it's that the screenshots usually look quite impressive, but
> you load the program and it runs for about 2 minutes before the sound cuts
> out for some unimaginable reason, or you can't find the function you need.
>
> When you use a tool, you should focus on the task said tool performs, not
> the tool itself. The tool should be transparent. If I had to consider the
> workings and parameters of the guitar each moment I played it, the thing
> would never make a sound.
>
> This of course is my own view of creativity and how linux offerings bear on
> that process. People are welcome to their rosy opinions, but I'm getting to
> the point where I'd rather work with analog modulars and a tape deck than
> try to coax something expressive out of linux audio.
>
> Not sure how relevant this discussion is to the LP mailing list though. I
> have to praise LP as the one piece of music-related OSS that isn't a piece
> of junk, and manages to be flexible while still usable. The documentation is
> also quite comprehensive, and the snippets database is a terse and effective
> goldmine.
>
> -Johnny
>
>
> On 07/22/2010 09:20 AM, Dave Phillips wrote:
>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> An interesting take on an experience similar to Johnny Ferguson's :
>>
>> http://www.linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=2591#p11388
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> dp
>>
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