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From: Frederick Bartlett <frederick.bartl...@gmail.com>
Date: 18 December 2012 11:25
Subject: Re: Aligning multiple verses to alternative notes in the melody
To: Phil Holmes <m...@philholmes.net>
Phil,
I guess I'm not being clear. And it can confuse the unwary singer!
Imagine that there are substantial variations in the number of syllables in
the lyrics between verses. So one verse might have "you" against a half
note, while the next would have "egotistical twerp" against a run of five
sixteenths and a dotted eighth.
I want to set both sets of notes in a single staff for the voice and the
lyrics of the two verses to align correctly to each set, thus:
{
\new Staff
<<
\override Score.LyricText #'self-alignment-X = #LEFT
\new Voice = "Upper" { \voiceOne
a'4 b'2 a'4 g'4
}
\new Lyrics \lyricsto "Upper" { to you, my love }
\new Voice = "Lower" { \voiceOne
a'4 \voiceTwo b'16 b' d'' b' b' b'8. \voiceOne a'4 g'4
}
\new Lyrics \lyricsto "Lower" { the e -- go -- tis -- ti -- cal twerp I
love }
>> % Staff end
}
But I'd like to do it without generating warnings and without repeating
identical notes between voices, as above, while keeping the precise
alignment of notes and syllables.
Does that make it any clearer?
Thanks again,
Fred
On 18 December 2012 10:52, Phil Holmes <m...@philholmes.net> wrote:
> **
> So the singers have different lyrics but the same note? If I was trying
> to sing that, I would find it very confusing.
>
> --
> Phil Holmes
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Frederick Bartlett <frederick.bartl...@gmail.com>
> *To:* Phil Holmes <m...@philholmes.net>
> *Cc:* lilypond-user@gnu.org
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 18, 2012 3:37 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Aligning multiple verses to alternative notes in the melody
>
> Phil,
>
> Thanks -- I guess I could, but that's a bit kludgey* as well. Since I
> don't want stems in both directions for those notes which don't change, I'd
> have to use
>
> \new Voice = "Lower" {
> s4 s4 \voiceTwo a'8 a'8 \voiceOne a'4
> a'4 \voiceTwo a'8 a'8 \voiceOne a'4 a'4
> }
>
> which works, but emits warnings for every note with identical stems in
> each voice: "warning: ignoring too many clashing note columns".
>
> It does look OK, though ... and I can ignore the warnings. I hope.
>
> Thanks again,
> Fred
>
> *kludgey, thy name is lilypond
>
> On 18 December 2012 10:18, Phil Holmes <m...@philholmes.net> wrote:
>
>> **
>> Why not just use 2 voices and skips?
>>
>> {
>> \new Staff
>> <<
>> \new Voice = "Upper" {
>> a'4 a'4 \voiceOne a'4 a'4
>> a'4 a'4 a'4 a'4
>> }
>> \new Lyrics \lyricsto "Upper" { a b c d e f g h }
>> \new Voice = "Lower" {
>> s4 s4 \voiceTwo a'8 a'8 a'4
>> a'4 a'8 a'8 a'4 a'4
>> }
>> \new Lyrics \lyricsto "Lower" { a b c d e f g h }
>> >> % Staff end
>> }
>>
>> --
>> Phil Holmes
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Frederick Bartlett <frederick.bartl...@gmail.com>
>> *To:* lilypond-user@gnu.org
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 18, 2012 2:44 PM
>> *Subject:* Aligning multiple verses to alternative notes in the melody
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> I have a song with irregular verses; I want to show the alternative notes
>> in the melody and align some verses to one alternative and some to the
>> other.
>>
>> I can come close by using '_' and the "divisi lyrics" instructions, but
>> the alignment is not perfect.
>>
>> What I want is something like this:
>>
>> 4 4 4/8 8 4 | 4 4/8 8 4 4
>> a b c d e f g h
>> a b c d e f g h
>>
>> where '4's are quarter notes, '8's are eighth notes, and '4/8's are both.
>>
>> Here's a snippet:
>>
>> firstVerse = \lyricmode { a b c d e f g h }
>>
>> skippy = #(define-music-function (parser location syllables) (number?)
>> #{ \repeat unfold $syllables { \skip 1 } #})
>>
>> LL = { \once \override LyricText #'self-alignment-X = #LEFT }
>>
>> secondVerse = \lyricmode { \skippy 2 \LL a_b c d \LL e_f g h }
>>
>> melodyMusic = \relative c'' { c4 c4 << { \voiceOne c4 } \new Voice =
>> "split" { \voiceTwo c8 [ c8 ] } >> c4 | c4 << { \voiceOne c4 } \new Voice =
>> "split" { \voiceTwo c8 [ c8 ] } >> c4 c4 \bar "|." }
>>
>> \new Staff = "voice" <<
>> \new Voice = "melody" << \voiceOne \global \melodyMusic>>
>> \new Lyrics \lyricsto "melody" \firstVerse
>> \new Lyrics \lyricsto "melody" \secondVerse
>> >>
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Fred
>>
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activity, however humble the activity, and to scorn shoddiness, however
exalted the activity. An excellent plumber is infinitely more admirable
than an incompetent philosopher. The society that scorns excellence in
plumbing because plumbing is a humble activity and tolerates shoddiness in
philosophy because it is an exalted activity will have neither good
plumbing nor good philosophy. Neither its pipes nor its theories will hold
water.
*--John Gardner, "Excellence" (h/t, The Underground Grammarian)*
--
We must learn to honor excellence in every socially accepted human
activity, however humble the activity, and to scorn shoddiness, however
exalted the activity. An excellent plumber is infinitely more admirable
than an incompetent philosopher. The society that scorns excellence in
plumbing because plumbing is a humble activity and tolerates shoddiness in
philosophy because it is an exalted activity will have neither good
plumbing nor good philosophy. Neither its pipes nor its theories will hold
water.
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