Thank you this seems to be work.
Kevin
\hideNotes actually makes the notes, and beams and stems, transparent.
> This means they still get space reserved, they just don't print.
> Sometimes people need exactly this, but here the extra (transparent)
> beams force your visible stems to lengthen to make room.
>
> You can remove the beams and stems, etc., in this second voice entirely:
>
> bracketsa = \relative c'' {
> \override NoteColumn #'ignore-collision = ##t
> \override NoteHead #'transparent = ##t
> \override Stem #'stencil = ##f
> \override Dots #'stencil = ##f
> \override Beam #'stencil = ##f
> \override Flag #'stencil = ##f
> \override Rest #'stencil = ##f
>
> s8 c16\startGroup d b\stopGroup }
>
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