On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Dave Martin <dave.mar...@linaro.org> wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Alexander Sack <a...@linaro.org> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 3:28 AM, Christian Robottom Reis <k...@linaro.org
> >
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi there!
> >>
> >>    I unpacked our minimal release image and ran an xdiskusage on it,
> >> mostly to see what we're shipping -- and I was surprised to see that a
> >> fourth of the image is actually apt package caches and lists.  Can we
> >> put into the image generation script something to strip them out before
> >> generating the image?
> >
> > if there are really .deb's shipped in the tarball then this is definitly
> > waste and a bug.
> >
> > However, if its just the lists and pkg cache then I am not so convinced
> > unless we say we
> > remove apt (and dpkg) from our images (e.g. dont allow easy
> install/upgrade
> > etc.).
> >
> > Those files would come back when running apt-get update etc., so the only
> > thing we would win is smaller initial download bandwidth, while I think
> we
> > are really after
> > general/lasting disk foodprint savings.
>
> We could remove these files, but I agree it may be a false
> optimisation: the size of the release filesystem is no longer
> representative of the steady-state size of the filesystem when it's in
> use in this case.
>

ack. this was my line of thinking .... thanks for confirming.


>
> Out of interest, does anyone know why dpkg/apt never migrated from the
> "massive sequential text file" approach to something more
> database-oriented?  I've often thought that the current system's
> scalability has been under pressure for a long time, and that there is
> potential for substantial improvements in footprint and performance -
> though the Debian and Ubuntu communities would need to give their
> support for such an approach, unless we wanted to switch to a
> different packaging system.
>
>
CCed mvo who can probably give some background here. From what I understand
it's a long standing wishlist bug with potential to break the world :-P


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 - Alexander
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