On Tue, Aug 09, 2011 at 03:08:53PM -0700, Taras Glek wrote:
> >You should definitely be trying to build using the Linaro 4.5 and 4.6
> >compiler branches; they are pretty much guaranteed to give you better
> >performance, and if they don't, we're on the hook to fix it quickly! All
> >the patches go upstream, so there is no risk of you being stuck on a
> >fork -- it just makes everything you need available right now.
> Mike, can you give these a try?

Also, the 4.5 branch is likely to perform better for a while; once 4.6 
has caught up 4.5 goes into stable mode.

If you are on a platform with NEON (i.e. not a Tegra2) experimenting
with on -O3 and -mfpu=neon might get some interesting results as that
enables the NEON auto-vectorizing Ira has been working on; given it's
Mozilla, you might also get an ICE though ;-) Tell us how it goes.

> >I'm copying the linaro-toolchain list to make sure that you get the
> >right people's attention (though if they weren't all coming back from
> >Connect in Cambridge this week they would have picked the email up
> >already).
> >
> >>I like how Linaro is doing regular arm benchmarking, ie
> >>https://wiki.linaro.org/Platform/Android/AndroidToolchainBenchmarking/2011-07
> >We do much more than that, but it's not as easy to find right now; for
> >instance http://ex.seabright.co.nz/helpers/benchcompare is Michael's
> >regular release benchmark.
> Link gives me an error page

It so happens the owner of the page is on vacation this week. I'll make
sure he fixes it and points you to a running URL when it's done.

> >Totally. Let's do it. Can you give me an idea of what boards you are
> >testing the build on today? Do you have a test suite that we could run
> >in a reasonable timeframe (hours, not days)?
>
> We have various benchmarks, all of which run within 30-60min.

Cool. Can you share a subset you'd like to see run as a starting point?

> >As for supporting actual released phones, it lies somewhat outside of
> >our optimal operating model, and we don't have any hardware available. I
> >guess we could do a spin for a specific model if we had enough of them
> >to use by a set of engineers in the different teams. They are so
> >expensive, though. Do you guys have lots of them?
> How many devices would you need?

5 phones would give me confidence that we're not going to be stuck
throughout the process of getting a build going. So that's the general
order of magnitude.

> We actually have two separate needs. We use developer boards for
> continuous integration and phones for development. We need a good
> quality rom for both. Perhaps we can switch our boards over to
> pandaboards.
> 
> Is there someone I can call(and what time) to discuss this further?

You can call me at +44 7595 200905 any time this week; now isn't a bad
time, but if I do miss your call I'll be sure to ring you back. You can
also call Zach on Thursday or Friday; I'll send his number separately.
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