On 19 September 2011 11:28, James Westby <[email protected]> wrote: > On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 11:06:53 -0700, Deepak Saxena <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> The kernel team is planning on setting aside a session at LC'Q4 to >> just discuss the BP/WI process and how we can find ways to make it >> better map to the upstream kernel process where things can be blocked >> for days, weeks, or longer waiting on someone we have no control over >> and where a task is decomposed into many smaller tasks that keep >> adding delay to something being "done" (for example, single zImage is >> likely going to be a 9-12 month project to get fully baked and working >> as we keep finding more pieces to work on). >> >> I'd like to in addition to just an open summit session on this subject >> propose that we have a separate PM and tech lead only discussion >> to dig deeper into this topic in an organisational-wide capacity. Mounir, >> since you're working with several WGs, would you be able to work >> with me to gather an agenda for this? Should this be scheduled >> outside of the summit system or can we use it to schedule private >> meetings? > > Why make this a private meeting?
too many cooks.... I think it is important to have an open discussion with as many engineers across different WGs present, but I think there needs to be a smaller group of people driving the decisions on how we move forward. From what I can tell, we have two problems we're trying to solve when it comes to tracking work: 1. Managing the work we are doing, planning, understanding team load, etc 2. Providing a marketing tool to show value to our members. I think (1) is a conversation of interest to engineers and I think BPs/WIs are a good tool if used gently. I think engineers really don't care about (2) as they just want to do interesting work and I think connecting the BPs/WIs to status.linaro.org, which is in my opinion primarily a marketing tool, is not something that works. We need to find a different way to track progress in a way that is presentable to the TSC and I don't know that we need everyone's involvement in that conversation. Thanks, ~Deepak _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~linaro-project-management Post to : [email protected] Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~linaro-project-management More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
