Chris, Thank you for sharing that - I encourage everyone to take a close look.
The proposed changes (dashed-lines on the 2nd map) really are pretty minimal IMO - and very unlikely to draw more than a few occasional riders. Thanks, -Bob On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 8:35 AM Chris Murphy <[email protected]> wrote: > I have attached two figures. One shows the trails in Lincoln available > for walking and horseback riding. The second figure shows the small number > of trails currently open to biking, and the proposed additions. > > I'm not sure everybody fully understands the (extremely limited) scope of > changes being proposed, I hope these figures help clarify. > > The figures are not authoritative - I made them from public data and the > ConCom presentations - but I've tried to reflect things accurately. > > Respectfully, > Chris Murphy > Old Winter Street > > On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 8:03 PM Gordon Woodington < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> I am tired of dog owners who let their dog come right up to scaring me, >> tired of bikers who give me no warning until dangerously on top of me. I >> wish that these experiences of many of us be respected. Yes, not everyone, >> is a problem, but enough are that not allowing all usages on trails make >> sense. >> >> Gordon Woodington >> >> On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 7:25 PM Allison Easton < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> My family and I have walked the Weston, Concord and Carlisle trails and >>> have found the bicyclists to be considerate. >>> >>> I would like our wonderful resources to be shared with those interested. >>> While there may be some bad apples on bikes, there are also some dogs that >>> rub their dirty noses and/or jump on strangers. Not to mention the >>> droppings that are left by dogs of some inconsiderate walkers. >>> >>> With a bit of mutual consideration, I want to believe we can all learn >>> to get along in our beautiful town. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Lincoln <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Margaret >>> Olson >>> *Sent:* Monday, June 20, 2022 5:37 PM >>> *To:* Sara Mattes <[email protected]> >>> *Cc:* Lincoln Talk <[email protected]>; Barbara Peskin < >>> [email protected]> >>> *Subject:* Re: [LincolnTalk] Trails Continuance >>> >>> >>> >>> Mike Farney did actively recruit large numbers of bikers, and those >>> bikers were not always respectful of the trails or other users. But that >>> was over 20 years ago! The biking community learned to police it’s own and >>> the serious bikers moved to other much more interesting venues. Look at the >>> trails in Weston. It’s just not a problem. I live near a section of the >>> Weston woods where bikes are permitted. I urge all of you to go walk in >>> Weston and Concord. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 5:09 PM Sara Mattes <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I would strongly disagree with the general statement that we are >>> perceived as “an island of exclusion,” because of our current trail >>> policies. >>> >>> The number of cars parked along our roadways all during the pandemic, >>> and the walkers that came from them would say otherwise. >>> >>> We are *well-known* for the relative peacefulness of our trails, as >>> opposed to those towns that have a larger number of bikes on them. >>> >>> >>> >>> The number of fast moving bikes and mountain bikes that were here during >>> Mike Farney’s tenure, and after, led to many complaints and to the >>> degradation of the trails. >>> >>> The bike ruts led to erosion and degradation of flora and vegetation, >>> and made walking often uncomfortable and sometimes unsafe. >>> >>> >>> >>> Subsequent hearings were filled with very passionate folks from the >>> out-of-town biking community and those in town, with a similar charge of >>> elitism deployed. >>> >>> It did not dissuade the stewards of our lands and the introduction of >>> more restricted use, and the return of peace and healthier trails for the >>> rest. >>> >>> >>> >>> It seems history is repeating itself and we may, once again, relearn a >>> hard lesson, unless our stewards are very, vary careful as they thread the >>> needle. >>> >>> >>> >>> Sara >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------ >>> Sara Mattes >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jun 20, 2022, at 4:45 PM, John Mendelson <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> I must point out that both Concord and Weston (and other towns >>> mentioned) allow cycling on a significant majority of their trails at >>> present. We are very much our of step with our peer towns in terms of >>> restricting usage of our trails. And these policies give us a reputation, >>> deserved or otherwise, of a town that is the opposite of welcoming and >>> open-minded. We are an island of exclusion when it comes to trail use >>> policy in the area. >>> >>> >>> >>> Further, there are many trail bike specific destinations in the area >>> that attract enthusiasts and an incremental increase in bike access here >>> will not significantly increase use nor impact wildlife. >>> >>> >>> >>> John >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2022, 4:25 PM Barbara Peskin <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Deb, >>> >>> Thank you for sharing the zoom link and reminder for the 6/22 vote. >>> >>> Interest from Lexington, Wayland, Andover, etc seems to be a sign of >>> outside recreational bike groups looking to get access to Lincoln trails >>> and I feel that the Conservation Commission's considering to lower the bar >>> on protecting habitat will negatively impact Lincoln wildlife - I don't >>> think Concord or Weston will in exchange protect trails if we open ours. >>> Lincoln has something special because of the generosity of conservation and >>> hard work of stewardship that came before us, and I wish it could continue. >>> I am sending in another letter on behalf of walkers and wildlife before >>> 6/22 and hope you might, too. If you are interested in seeing my letter >>> please let me know. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Re: Trails Continuance from Lincoln Digest, Vol 117, Issue 20 >>> >>> >>> >>> Hello, all - >>> >>> >>> >>> The June 1 ConComm trails discussion over Zoom was robust and >>> heartening; lots of people showed up and voiced their opinions on the >>> proposed trails regulations. >>> >>> >>> >>> For those who couldn't make it, the ConComm decided to hold off on >>> voting on the regs, and instead to continue the meeting on the evening of >>> this Wednesday, June 22, also over Zoom. You can find the agenda for that >>> meeting here: >>> https://www.lincolntown.org/AgendaCenter/ViewFile/Agenda/_06222022-4573 >>> >>> Further discussion and a vote on the trails issue is scheduled for 8:15 >>> pm, and the Zoom link for the meeting is on the agenda, or here: >>> >>> >>> >>> Zoom Meeting Link: >>> >>> >>> https://us06web.zoom.us/j/88063247875?pwd=SFJFd1pKcVJZSDFXUDkxdGVyYzBQZz09 >>> >>> or Dial In: 1-646-876-9923 >>> >>> Meeting ID: 880 6324 7875 Passcode: 894034 >>> >>> >>> >>> Written comments on the proposed draft trails policy are a matter of >>> public record; Michelle Grzenda suggested that anyone interested in reading >>> those comments should call or email her or Stacy Carter for the link. (The >>> Conservation Dept. prefers to get individual requests for the link rather >>> than broadcasting it, because private emails are included with the >>> comments). >>> >>> >>> >>> I have read the comments, and think they’re worth the read, as they give >>> a wide range of opinions on trail use in Lincoln. (I noticed that some >>> quite extensive comments came from residents of Lexington, Wayland, Weston, >>> Concord, Belmont and Andover — there’s quite a lot of interest outside >>> Lincoln in Lincoln’s trail policies.) And of course it’s always good to >>> hear the voices and views of others on the ConComm Zoom, and to voice your >>> own. >>> >>> >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> >>> >>> Deb Howe >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> Barbara Peskin >>> >>> *My Moments in Nature Photo Gallery: **barbarapeskin.com* >>> <http://barbarapeskin.com/> >>> >>> -- >>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>> To post, send mail to [email protected]. >>> Search the archives at http://lincoln.2330058.n4.nabble.com/. >>> Browse the archives at >>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>> Change your subscription settings at >>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>> >>> -- >>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>> To post, send mail to [email protected]. >>> Search the archives at http://lincoln.2330058.n4.nabble.com/. >>> Browse the archives at >>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>> Change your subscription settings at >>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>> To post, send mail to [email protected]. >>> Search the archives at http://lincoln.2330058.n4.nabble.com/. >>> Browse the archives at >>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>> Change your subscription settings at >>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>> >>> -- >>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>> To post, send mail to [email protected]. >>> Search the archives at http://lincoln.2330058.n4.nabble.com/. >>> Browse the archives at >>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>> Change your subscription settings at >>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>> >>> -- >> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >> To post, send mail to [email protected]. >> Search the archives at http://lincoln.2330058.n4.nabble.com/. >> Browse the archives at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >> Change your subscription settings at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >> >> -- > The LincolnTalk mailing list. > To post, send mail to [email protected]. > Search the archives at http://lincoln.2330058.n4.nabble.com/. > Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/ > . > Change your subscription settings at > https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. > >
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