Totally the right respect to show to other users.   Issue to me, it that
rather than putting the onnus on one set of users to "educated"/"diabused"
the notions and behaviors of other users, just some simple, physical
separation of users will a far better approach with less issues/less
uncivility . You are also talking about different seasons of the year, each
having their own behavioral peculiarities.
Gordon Woodington

On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at 6:05 PM Joanna Owen Schmergel <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I am a jogger, runner & Nordic skier.
>
> I believe that it is always proper etiquette to announce yourself when you
> are coming up behind someone. The faster you are moving (biking, running,
> fast paced skiing) the more important it is to announce yourself.
>
>
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> On Sunday, June 26, 2022, 5:58 PM, Gordon Woodington <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> True Johanna, though these ones you mention do not all have the same
> jarring effect as bikers who never announce themselves or do so way too
> late and inconsiderately.   I was on the trails at Mt. Misery yesterday,
> and had a nice conversation with a dog walker from Bedford.  He comes to
> Lincoln for it's more quiet, peaceful experience, and less crowded, for
> both his well behaved dog and himself. Unsolicited, he expressed issuse
> with "arrogant bikers" as he described them.  Our specialness will be lost
> if Lincoln homogenizes to be the lowest common denominator to be like other
> towns, if Lincoln helds to this as "the way to go".  I pray that Lincoln
> does not go this way, rather keeps its difference, its diversification, in
> the face of pressure to lose it.
>
> There is history and wisdom in Lincoln about what happened negatively in
> the past.  We should take that all to heart. Not to yield to yet another
> experiment, one which also had no adequate procedure and funding in place
> even to evaluate/compensate for the proposed changes.
>
> I second Colleen Katsuki's posting wholeheartedly.
>
> Gordon Woodington
>
> On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at 5:40 PM Joanna Owen Schmergel via Lincoln <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> In all of these discussions let’s please not forget joggers, runners,
> cross-country skiers, & snow shoers…
>
>
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> On Sunday, June 26, 2022, 5:19 PM, Colleen Katsuki <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> I always wait a little to see what everybody has to say before I chime
> in. My former husband David and I moved to Lincoln in 1994 because of
> the conservation land. I could track deer out by back door! It was
> wonderful. David soon joined the conservation commission and served for
> many years. One issue that came up early was that of dogs off leash at
> Mount Misery. One off leash dog caused a horse to rear up, fortunately
> not injuring the rider and other dogs jumped on small children causing
> them much distress. Because Mount misery has plenty of parking, it was
> the focus of that discussion. One evening after the con com meeting Dave
> came home and poured himself stiff one. I said :" They have driven you
> to drink." And he laughed and said "Yes." In true Lincoln fashion there
> was much heated discussion, but eventually a good Lincoln compromise was
> made. Dogs were allowed off leash on certain trails at Mount MIsery and
> not on others.  Of course that issue has never been revisited.
>
>
> I have several thoughts about bikes on trails, and obviously I compare
> that with dogs off or on leash. With both dogs off leash and bikes,
> there is a disturbance of the people on foot or on horseback. The
> walkers do not disturb the off leash dogs or the bicycle riders. The
> disturbance and lack of comfort caused is one way only : It bothers the
> walkers. I think that should be strongly considered. If bikes are
> allowed on all trails, will walkers stop coming? Where would they go if
> this resource that many have used for years is no longer usable for
> them? Especially during covid, folks appreciated the solace of nature
> unimpeded by noise or disturbance. The quietness is too important to be
> lost, because once it is lost, it will not be returning. I am hopeful
> that a classic Lincoln compromise can be made limiting bike use to only
> a few trails.
>
>
>
> Colleen Katsuki
>
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