Leslie, Are used to live next to Fresh Pond in Belmont/Cambridge. The pond is fenced all the way around its perimeter, not to mention tons of poison ivy growing inside the fence!
– Allen Vander Meulen Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 10, 2022, at 23:16, Leslie Turek <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I could be wrong about this, but doesn't Fresh Pond have a fence that > prevents dogs from actually getting down into the pond or close to the edge? > That might be why they can permit dogs off leash at Fresh Pond. Flints Pond > has no such fence, nor would we want one. > > Leslie Turek > >> On Sun, Jul 10, 2022 at 11:07 PM Linda McMillan <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> It's good to know that the staff from LLCT and the Conservation Commission >> see these discussions. >> >> I just learned a very important piece of information I would like to pass >> along. In talking with a Water Commissioner in Cambridge, I was told that >> Cambridge went through a very similar process of determining the best use of >> trails. In particular, they wanted to determine if dogs should continue to >> be allowed off leash around Fresh Pond. After an exhaustive search of the >> published literature on the issue of dog waste and its impact on water >> quality, they found no evidence that dog waste had a negative impact on >> water quality. Instead, they found it was geese poop that was creating a >> problem with water quality. >> >> In fact, now Fresh Pond is the only place in Cambridge where dogs are >> allowed off leash! >> >> I found this information astounding and respectively recommend that the Con >> Com, LLCT and the Water Department look into this more thoroughly as it >> relates to the proposed rule that dogs must be leashed at all times on all >> trails around Flints Pond. >> >>> On Sat, Jul 9, 2022, 7:38 PM Sara Lupkas <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> Hello! >>> >>> Staff from both LLCT and the Conservation Department see these emails. >>> >>> Sara Lupkas >>> Stewardship Director >>> Lincoln Land Conservation Trust >>> >>> e. [email protected] >>> p. 781-259-9251 >>> c. 610-620-3626 >>> >>>>> On Jul 9, 2022, at 7:29 PM, Sara Mattes <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>> They should all go to Con Comm staff for public record >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>>> On Jul 9, 2022, at 5:56 PM, Linda McMillan <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I am wondering if the Conservation Commission Director or staff even see >>>>> any of these comments unless you send them directly to them via the email >>>>> on the town's website. Not sure. >>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Jul 9, 2022, 8:09 AM Colleen Katsuki <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Good points Christopher. >>>>>> >>>>>> One thing I think is that we actually need more data.How many bikes are >>>>>> on which trails ? I remember the dogs off leash controversy some years >>>>>> ago and on Mt Misery. Dogs were allowed off leash only on certain >>>>>> trails .But what happens is people say or think:" My dog is well >>>>>> behaved" and they leave the animal off leash, The rules are not well >>>>>> posted nor are they well observed. I think this could be another issue >>>>>> here. >>>>>> >>>>>> Colleen Katsuki >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ubject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Bikes on bike paths where they belong? >>>>>> From: Christopher Eliot <[email protected]> >>>>>> Date: 7/7/22, 8:56 AM >>>>>> To: Lincoln Talk <[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>>> I have read many articles about Lincoln trail usage and I am not >>>>>> strongly in favor or against usage by bikes. >>>>>> >>>>>> However, given the controversy, a “go slow” approach to changing >>>>>> regulations seems prudent. Some of the issues are just preferences and >>>>>> will not change over time, but some are fact based and can be researched >>>>>> in time. >>>>>> >>>>>> Overall, it seems like the decision should be made on a case by case >>>>>> basis taking into account the unique characteristics of each trail, >>>>>> including importance for each possible user group and local >>>>>> environmental conditions. >>>>>> I think there are some overall principles that apply to each trail use >>>>>> decision: >>>>>> >>>>>> * Safety of all trail users is a priority. This can mean providing a >>>>>> safe path for bikers to cross busy roads and it can mean doing something >>>>>> so that elderly walkers are not in fear of bikers. >>>>>> >>>>>> * Some trails are probably inherently better for some uses than for >>>>>> other uses. I think there are some terrain features that don’t make good >>>>>> bike trails; these trails should be kept bike free. Paved rail trails >>>>>> seem to work well for mixed uses. >>>>>> >>>>>> * Along some routes bikes can be a practical form of transportation, >>>>>> especially to schools. Replacing automobile traffic with bicycle usage >>>>>> has multiple benefits and should be facilitated where possible. Circular >>>>>> trails are not transportation routes. >>>>>> >>>>>> * Preservation of nature is a priority. Wild places are easily over-used >>>>>> and the total amount of usage matters. Choosing one single use is a >>>>>> possible way to limit total usage of a trail. To be fair, this might >>>>>> mean designating some trails for exclusive use of each type of user. >>>>>> >>>>>> There have been published stories illustrating poor behavior among >>>>>> various types of trail users. The enjoyment of our wonderful shared >>>>>> resources really depends on common courtesy and mutual respect from all. >>>>>> Hopefully there are people who can learn from these stories about little >>>>>> things that make the world better for other people. I don’t think it is >>>>>> possible for force people to be courteous; it has to come from within. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Christopher Eliot >>>>>> 124 Bedford Road >>>>>> -- >>>>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>>>> To post, send mail to [email protected]. >>>>>> Search the archives at http://lincoln.2330058.n4.nabble.com/. >>>>>> Browse the archives at >>>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>>>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>>> To post, send mail to [email protected]. >>>>> Search the archives at http://lincoln.2330058.n4.nabble.com/. >>>>> Browse the archives at >>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>> To post, send mail to [email protected]. >>>> Search the archives at http://lincoln.2330058.n4.nabble.com/. >>>> Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>> >> -- >> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >> To post, send mail to [email protected]. >> Search the archives at http://lincoln.2330058.n4.nabble.com/. >> Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >> Change your subscription settings at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >> > -- > The LincolnTalk mailing list. > To post, send mail to [email protected]. > Search the archives at http://lincoln.2330058.n4.nabble.com/. > Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. > Change your subscription settings at > https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >
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