Connie you nailed it.  We need a Community Center at the ball park/ schools
location!  We are trying to build an intergenerational  center- where kids
who have grandparents who live far away can make GRANDFRIENDS !  Let us
create activities that build community across generations-game
nights-movies for all-exercise programs, trips, mental health support and
the list goes on!
As an aging adult I do not want to be isolated- if you want to do that why
not put all the old people on ice flows and push us out into Flint/Sandy
pond! Then we wouldn’t be a burden!

On Thu, 24, 2022 at 9:22 PM June L Matthews <[email protected]> wrote:

> I enjoyed John Carr's account, partly because I lived in Cambridge near
> Harvard Square for 17 years before moving to Lincoln.  In 1990 I felt that
> I had "been there, done that," and was eager for a quieter, greener
> environment.  I moved to Lincoln and ended up on Greenridge Lane, which
> someone said had been advertised as "Cambridge in the country."  For me it
> was ideal, walking distance to commuter rail and the town center
> (Donelan's, post office, etc.).  Now retired, I don't use the commuter rail
> as much, but I value the concept of a town or village center (aka Lincoln
> Station).  Even though I am still driving, I would be much more likely to
> visit and utilize a Senior/Community Center if it were located within
> walking distance from these other amenities (groceries, post office,
> Something Special, dry cleaners, Twisted Tree, bank, et al.), rather than
> -- not really "in the middle of nowhere," but still remote from other
> probable destinations -- a location like Hartwell.  I've thought a lot
> about the issues, and am reluctant to vote approval for funds to study just
> the two previous proposals.  Things, and people, and people's ideas, have
> changed in the past ten years.  Could we not have a broader discussion,
> including the scope, purpose, and location of the proposed new facility?
>
> June Matthews
> Greenridge Lane
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lincoln <[email protected]> On Behalf Of John F. Carr
> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2022 3:32 PM
> To: Constance Lewis <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] The meaning of community
>
> Those tables where people sometimes play chess in Harvard Square only
> exist as part of an ecosystem that is everything the Select Board, police
> department, and Planning Board fight so hard to keep Lincoln from turning
> into.  Many thousands of people pass through the square
> in a day, more than live in all of Lincoln.   Less than one in a
> thousand of them stop to play chess.  There are more things to do in
> Harvard Square than all of Lincoln plus several community centers.
>
> For a while centered on two decades ago I spent Saturday afternoons and
> evenings there.  I would meet up with friends for dinner then we would
> separate to do our own things before meeting again.  Split up, we didn't
> have a choice of shuffleboard vs. cribbage.  We had a hundred shops for
> those who wanted to shop.  For the rest, listen to the street musicians,
> walk along the river, or go for a smoke or a drink on the Common.  If one
> of us had been into chess that break would have been time to look for a
> game.
>
> Maybe another 15 years of gentrification have changed things, but in the
> 2000s the area was filled with what Lincoln residents would call
> "suspicious" people.  Around half the people I ate with any given Saturday
> night would have residents here calling the cop.  The white ones too.  And
> I didn't hang out with the really weird people.
> Friends who could hold a decent job, and friends of friends.
>
> That is what happens when you have a dense urban environment with good
> public transportation.  That is why Arlington residents were not excited by
> the offer to extend the Red Line to their town forty years ago.  Urban is
> not for everybody.
>
> We are not going to have lots of shops, activities, and good public
> transportation around a community center.  We are not going to have a lot
> of people within walking distance of the building.  The community center
> will be an isolated facility visited by people who can get a car ride.  If
> we want to dream we should look at other towns, not cities.  What happens
> at other towns' community centers?  Are there crowds watching chess games?
> Is the site deserted except for a few hours every day?  Is the building
> near anything, or is it in the middle of nowhere like Hartwell?
>
>
> John Carr
>
> On Fri, Nov 18, 2022 at 12:18 PM Constance Lewis <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > On a beautiful days in early November, I had an appointment in Harvard
> Square and stopped for coffee at the Smith Campus Center (formerly the
> Holyoke Center). The plaza in front that faces Mass Avenue has always been
> well used by a great variety of people—from Harvard students to Cambridge
> residents to visitors from near and far; and I have always enjoyed spending
> time there, sometimes just idly watching the passing parade. But on that
> Thursday, I looked at the plaza and the sidewalk in front of it in a
> different way because of the LincolnTalk discussion about the building of a
> community center. I saw people on their laptops pausing to chat for a
> minute or two with someone who stopped by. Other people were talking
> seriously or cheerfully with friends and often with strangers at the next
> table. People of different generations were playing chess. All around the
> plaza and even on the street, there was a subtle, but palpable, sense of
> community.
> >
> > I thought about what a community center would contribute to the
> well-being of Lincoln residents of all ages and situations. Those of us who
> are primarily connected to the town through the Council on Aging and Human
> Services will inevitably become more connected to the schools and the
> students. Other adults who are focused on school activities and those whose
> children have gone on to high school may fall into conversation with
> strangers whose ideas are enlightening or annoying, both part of building
> and maintaining a strong community. Parks and Rec will have space to engage
> Lincolnites of all ages in old and new activities.
> >
> > For me, a building, no matter how well planned, is just bricks and
> mortar until it is inhabited. Once people bring it to life, a building
> becomes something no one could have entirely anticipated; before long,
> people start to wonder how they lived without it.
> >
> > Those of us who are familiar with the space constraints in town know how
> much we need more space for both administration and activities. Scattering
> activities around town is often difficult or impossible to arrange. A
> centralized community space makes it possible to manage activities
> creatively, and the Community Center Building Committee has made this case
> very well. Yes, building the Community Center will raise everyone’s taxes
> though probably not as much some people imagine. But this investment in the
> future will be well worth it if it makes Lincoln an even better place to
> live and thrive.
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