Our new school has a state-of-the-art theater for students , no?

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Melinda Bruno-Smith




On Nov 26, 2022, at 11:03 AM, DJCP <[email protected]> wrote:


The school is bustling after school with plays and musicals and music lessons 
and school sports but parks and rec activities take place in the pods and 
around town. For example, farmer friends at Codman and musical theater which is 
currently at First Parish. The fact that theater is off campus is a hindrance 
for young kids with no grown up to accompany them. Walking from school to the 
church requires crossing a busy road at least twice, only one of which has a 
crossing guard. (And please, do not suggest the town hire another crossing 
guard.  That is not the answer.)

In my opinion, one of the greatest benefits of living in Lincoln is how much 
independence the kids get from being on campus and walking around, and how much 
access they have to enrichment activities such as music lessons and parks and 
rec activities, which do not require an adult to take off work / work from home 
/ be a stay at home parent.

Diana
Giles Rd


On Sat, Nov 26, 2022, 10:51 AM melinda bruno-smith 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi Andy,
Wouldn't after-school programs be in the school?
melinda
________________________________
From: Lincoln 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on 
behalf of Andy Wang <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 8:38 AM
To: June L Matthews <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: LincolnTalk <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; 
Margaret P Flint <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Community Center

In the discussion above, I'm unclear if folks are advocating for a community 
center (both COA and Parks & Rec) or a senior center (and keep Parks & Rec in 
the pods) in the spaces around Lincoln Station.  But just some additional food 
for thought, on the Parks and Rec side, I believe that it was viewed as 
important to keep spaces accessible to the school campus.  With the programs 
for kids, it is convenient for kids to be able to get to those programs easily. 
Not all kids are old enough to walk over by themselves.  LEAP also takes 
several of its kids over to the programs that parents sign up for and pick them 
up that may not be right after school.

- Andy




On Sat, Nov 26, 2022 at 8:15 AM June L Matthews 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Excellent statement,  Ken!  I hope that the proposal to change gears and 
consider a community center at Lincoln Station gains some traction. I would 
vote in favor of allocating funds to study this option.  After reading the many 
comments and thinking carefully about the issues, I would not vote in favor of 
allocating funds directed only toward the Hartwell proposals.  I can’t 
remember, ten years ago, what led to the choice of this location.  For all the 
reasons expressed by you and a few others, I believe that this choice, although 
well-intentioned, was misguided.  Let’s put the community center in the center 
of our community – accessible by foot or bike by many, and for those using 
their cars, adjacent to other essential services (groceries, post office, etc.)



June Matthews

Greenridge Lane



From: Lincoln 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On 
Behalf Of Ken Hurd
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2022 9:55 PM
To: LincolnTalk <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: Margaret P Flint <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: [LincolnTalk] Community Center



Hello LincolnTalkers,

I wish to applaud all those who have taken the time to revisit and question the 
financial pros and cons of building a community center at this time, and thanks 
particularly to those who have recently commented on the advisability of 
building it at the Hartwell site.



I fully support building a new facility, but it has long been my opinion that 
such a major investment by the town should be deployed where it is most needed 
- namely in the Lincoln Station area.  For more than ten years since Town 
Meeting approved the Comprehensive Long Range Plan, in which the revitalization 
of Lincoln Station was overwhelmingly one of the highest priorities, the area 
has lain dormant and in serious need of a catalyst to jumpstart its 
transformation into the compact, vital, walkable village center that was a 
stated goal at the time.  A community center in such a location would be the 
equivalent of an anchor store in a retail setting, and by virtue of attracting 
more people on a regular basis, it would create more opportunities for a 
clustered cross-current of activities spawning greater social interaction.



In my opinion, it would constitute the classic suburban planning error to 
create a new center that stands alone like the suburban mall accessible only by 
car.  In addition, because of school protocols, there would be very limited 
inter-generational co-mingling until after school hours, if at all.  And, even 
if there weren’t a greater  awareness about the effects of climate change, 
wouldn’t it make far more sense to locate a community center where there are 
already other crucial services such as the post office, grocery store, 
cleaners, a cafe and restaurant, etc.?



If the vote for more funding fails at the Special Town Meeting next Wednesday 
evening, November 30th, I urge residents, the Selects and the Planning Board to 
seriously reconsider Lincoln Station as the location that would best serve the 
interests and greater good of the town going forward.



Thank you for all those who have weighed in on this discussion.



Respectfully,

Ken Hurd

Lifting the Human Spirit by Design
781-259-3300
781-259-8900 cell
www.keha.com<http://www.keha.com>













On Nov 25, 2022, at 1:02 PM, John F. Carr 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:



I just skimmed over the 2015 report which is the foundation for what
we are discussing.

That report tried to steer people away from the Lincoln Station area.
One of the six options was to build on the commuter rail parking lot
and include an underground parking garage (the most expensive kind of
parking) to make up for lost parking.  Since then COVID killed
commuter rail.  The parking lot is just another town-owned vacant lot.

When you take the cost of an underground garage out of the picture,
the commuter rail parking lot becomes the cheapest building site (in
2015 dollars, and including the cost of renovating Hartwell facilities
that don't move).  It has the advantage of being near shops, Codman,
and Lincoln Woods.  We might end up with a community center rather
than a place one drives to and drives home from.

On Fri, Nov 25, 2022 at 10:16 AM Margaret P Flint
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


How about this idea for the Community Center: the building at the Mall at 
Lincoln Station now occupied by Something Special and Lincoln Dog Training.

Several things in its favor:

       -It is across the street from Ryan Estates Greenridge, and adjacent to 
Lincoln Woods.

       -There are two restaurants adjacent which would eliminate the need for a 
food preparation area, a significant cost.

       -Also, there is a grocery store right there, which would allow users to 
double up on car trips.

       -There is ample parking.

There are two downsides that I can think of.  I’m sure there are more.

       - Something Special would need to move.  But I see a for rent sign 
across the street.  Perhaps the cost of moving Something Special could be built 
into the cost of renovating for a Community Center.  The dog training facility 
is also               there, but it is my understanding that most of that work 
takes place outside the building.

       -The Rural Land Foundation would lose rent revenue.

Thoughts?




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