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> On Dec 6, 2022, at 6:17 PM, Sara Mattes <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> It would be helpful to have some examples from countries that had more 
> opens-paces and rural settings…some  place that looks more like us.
> I saw amazing infrastructure for bikes and pedestrians in Florence, but I 
> would not thing to try and translate those initiative to Lincoln…maybe some  
> more of the most densely developed urban areas of the US, but most of the US 
> could not implement these techniques.
> 
> Where are there some applicable examples?
> 
> Sara
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>> On Dec 6, 2022, at 5:29 PM, Rich Rosenbaum <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> From a recent Economist:
>> 
>> ..consider the Dutch approach to bicycles. Dollops of funding on 
>> bike-friendly infrastructure makes pedalling safer in the Netherlands. So 
>> does an inventive rule, codified in 1994: in a collision between a car and a 
>> cyclist, motorists are assumed to be at fault unless they can prove 
>> otherwise. Only truly reckless cyclists are made to share the blame. Dutch 
>> drivers thus treat bike-riders as if they were carrying an infectious 
>> disease, giving them the required wide berth. Better yet, whereas motorists 
>> in other countries furiously object to new cycle lanes, Dutch ones welcome 
>> them, since segregating two-wheelers reduces the chance of a costly 
>> accident. Rates of cycling in the Netherlands have increased sharply—and 
>> deaths-per-mile-pedalled have plummeted.
>> 
>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 5:06 PM John Mendelson <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> So while road design definitely plays a part in this 10+ year terrible 
>> trend, speed and vehicle design are also to blame.  Two mainstream media 
>> outlets weigh in:
>> 
>> Fast Company:  Should We Ban SUVs? 
>> <https://www.fastcompany.com/90420280/should-we-ban-suvs>         
>> 
>> Vox: A Driver Killed Her Daughter.  She Won't Let the World Forget  
>> <https://www.vox.com/23462548/allison-hart-pedestrian-deaths-suvs-deadliest-roads>
>>      
>> 
>> John
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