Dear friends, I don't express after I saw the blindness during the school vote. I think there is a group that thinks of real estate value than the town livability value. A Senior Center is needed since the population is ageing. But the group that drives the project may not be interested in using the Center. A poll exclusively among the seniors might yield a pragmatic result. Best regards, Bijoy Misra
On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 9:25 AM Seth Rosen <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi June, > > While I agree that a pause in this work would be prudent, it's not going > to happen I'm afraid. > > A few controversial, but I think accurate, points... > > 1) There is a sub-group of residents who believe that the construction of > a community center is a long time in the making. They believe that the > volume of planning work and discussions already done over the years > justifies its construction (i.e. we've been working on it for a long time, > so it must be a good idea). > > 2) This same group generally believes that the renovation of the school > came with an implied promise to build a community center. > > 3) This group was massively emboldened by the town's willingness to > authorize $325,000 to develop alternatives and create plans at various > levels of cost. These levels were largely arbitrarily determined in the > meeting, in real time, in an effort to reflect the town's concern about > costs vs. actual needs. And (mostly) allow everyone to go home since the > meeting itself took ten times as long as it needed to. Most younger folks, > especially those with kids, had to leave long before the vote was actually > taken. > > 4) Now the construction project has an architect, and is a solution > looking for a problem. Exercise classes with 4 attendees now need > dedicated spaces, staff members need large and new dedicated offices, etc. > The list goes on. > > The CCBC is a community center *building* committee. They want to build > a community center, that's why they didn't ask in the survey if people > thought we needed one. They don't want the answer to that question. And > candidly, I'm inclined to agree with them that it doesn't matter. The will > of the town and the opinions of survey respondents are irrelevant to both > sides. *This will be put to a vote and the only thing that matters is > the will of the people who actually show up and vote.* > > Seth > > Seth I Rosen > Cell: 617-771-5602 > Email: [email protected] > > > On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 8:13 AM June L Matthews <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I agree that this (a “pause”) would be a good idea. Back when the CCBC >> survey came out a resident wrote to say that it didn’t contain the >> important question as to whether the responder was in favor of building a >> community center at Hartwell (or at all). The CCBC was requested to send >> out a second survey but this never happened. Moreover, the meeting (in >> 2018?) at which there was a “unanimous” vote for the Harwell site was not >> attended by anything like a majority of town voters. Someone estimated >> that there were perhaps 150 people there. And, as you point out, this was >> a long time ago and many things have changed since then. >> >> >> >> June Matthews >> >> Greenridge Lane >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Lincoln <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *judyta >> frodyma >> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 27, 2023 12:28 PM >> *To:* Sara Mattes <[email protected]> >> *Cc:* Peter von Mertens <[email protected]>; Lincoln Talk < >> [email protected]> >> *Subject:* Re: [LincolnTalk] Site visit for Community Center >> >> >> >> These are great and I'm happy to see the transparency. >> >> >> >> However, is there an option to pause all this work forward on the >> Community Centre and actually check in with the whole community whether >> they want this project to go ahead? (Method to be determined, perhaps some >> kind of mandatory vote? Don't tear me apart on this specific, I'm just >> thinking out loud.) >> >> >> >> Seems to me that there's been a lot of turnover in people living in >> Lincoln, many of whom, like ourselves, are young pandemic or post-pandemic >> transplants. We did not have a say in whether this is a project that we >> wanted (or can afford) since the vote happened so long ago, and many of us >> are new or first time home owners. >> >> >> >> Given the incredible amount of division on the issue, especially on >> Lincoln Talk and at town meetings, maybe we can pause and check in before >> plowing ahead? >> >> >> >> Thank you, >> >> Jude Frodyma >> >> Conant Rd >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 22, 2023, 7:38 PM Sara Mattes <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Thank you-please alert us when they are up. >> >> Sara >> >> ------ >> Sara Mattes >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jun 22, 2023, at 11:41 AM, Peter von Mertens < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> Yes we have asked specifically that they be available in advance of >> Wednesday's meeting >> >> >> >> Peter >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 10:49 PM Sara Mattes <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Will options for the updated site plans be available on the website, in >> advance? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Jun 21, 2023, at 5:04 PM, Peter von Mertens < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > >> > There will be a site visit prior to the Community Center Building >> Committee meeting next Wednesday, June 28. We will begin promptly at 6:30 >> in front of the Hartwell building. All are welcome. We will try to have >> printouts of the latest site designs from our architects >> > >> > The CCBC meeting is at 7:00 in the Hartwell Multipurpose room. >> > >> > Please come >> > >> > Peace Peter von Mertens >> > -- >> > The LincolnTalk mailing list. >> > To post, send mail to [email protected]. >> > Browse the archives at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >> > Change your subscription settings at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >> To post, send mail to [email protected]. >> Browse the archives at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >> Change your subscription settings at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >> >> -- >> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >> To post, send mail to [email protected]. >> Browse the archives at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >> Change your subscription settings at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >> >> -- > The LincolnTalk mailing list. > To post, send mail to [email protected]. > Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/ > . > Change your subscription settings at > https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. > >
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