As I noticed during the School project, there is a strong over-building lobby in town. People think that large projects will add value to property etc (possibly does) . Some sell and leave. Let us be conservative, let us not urbanize the town. I appeal to the leaders to contain the costs. Best regards, Bijoy Misra
On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 2:15 PM Karla Gravis <karlagra...@gmail.com> wrote: > The 2015 study looked at building a new, all-in community center at each > site. What we need now is to look at supplementing activities in other > sites around town. The charge from the November 2022 town meeting > specifically mentions this as an option for the committee. Voters assumed > the committee would demonstrate a good faith effort to do so, but this > hasn't happened. We need to remember that even if we build a new community > center, we will still need to maintain Bemis Hall and Pierce House. These > costs are not included in the current ICON estimates. > > I have attended quite a few of the CCBC meetings, so I am not new to the > process. To me, the main difficulty is that we are on the path to > overbuilding, again. According to the CCBC's own benchmarking, Wayland > (with double our population and double our number of seniors per the CCBC) > has managed to approve a project with a price tag that is less than the > cheapest option being evaluated for Lincoln. They managed this by hosting a > portion of their activities in locations around town. We should follow > their example. > >> >> *Cc:* Listserv Listserv <lincoln@lincolntalk.org> >> >> *Subject:* *Re: [LincolnTalk] Last Night's Community Center Forum* >> >> Lynn, >> Thanks for your interest in the Community Center. It is clear you are very >> new to the program. Please visit the CCBC website where you will find the >> final reports for the >> 2015 Study Committee. Five sites in Town were studied, design options >> identified and costed ( in 2015 construction cost dollars): >> Bemis Hall, Pierce House, Hartwell, Lincoln Station and DPW site. >> 2016 Campus Master Planning Committee - Evaluated the impact of siting the >> CC on the school campus. >> 2018 CCPPDC with actual designs for buildings at the Hartwell site. >> The charge of the current committee doesn't include revisiting these other >> sites. >> Please read the reports. >> We have been challenged by very real needs on that site posed by the LEAP >> program, but our PRIMARY DIFFICULTY relates to the astronomical escalation >> of construction costs ( totally out of our control), and the severe >> restraints imposed by the Town to look for lower cost options. Even our >> "100%" option provides way less than what was presented in 2018. >> Dilla Tingley >> COA&HS Board, CCBC Committee Member >> >> >> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Forest Brown <forestbrow...@gmail.com> >>> *Date:* September 13, 2023 at 10:42:11 AM EDT >>> *To:* "Lynn DeLisi, M.D." <delis...@aol.com> >>> *Cc:* Listserv Listserv <lincoln@lincolntalk.org> >>> *Subject:* *Re: [LincolnTalk] Last Night's Community Center Forum* >>> >>> >>> Dear Lynn, >>> >>> Thank you so much for thoughtfully describing your perspective. I was >>> also wondering about improving upon preexisting buildings as an >>> alternative. I am in complete agreement with what you’ve shared here. I >>> appreciate you willing to serve on behalf of other residents who feel the >>> same way. >>> >>> Becca >>> >>> On Sep 13, 2023, at 10:29 AM, Lynn DeLisi, M.D. via Lincoln < >>> lincoln@lincolntalk.org> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Wednesday September 13, 2023 >>> >>> Dear LT, >>> >>> I am posting my personal views, not as a member of the Town Planning >>> Board, but as one resident of this unique town. I want to thank the >>> Community Center Building Committee and the Architects for their hard work >>> for our Town over the last several months. However, after listening to the >>> Community Center Building Committee’s Forum last evening, it has become >>> very clear to me that the Town’s vision to improve facilities for the COA >>> cannot be accomplished on the school site as “selected” by residents of the >>> Town a few years ago. We hired excellent architects who have listened to >>> the committee and the public now for several months and have come up with >>> 3+ major plans, recommending the middle priced one that is at 75% the >>> original very expensive estimate given to us last year. The lowest price >>> option was shown to be inadequate for COA activities and would be only as >>> one person said “moving the COA from one deficient site to another”. >>> >>> It was also clear that remaining on the school site means we “must”, >>> according to the committee leadership, include in our community center >>> renovating or rebuilding space for the after school program called “LEAP”, >>> despite many residents giving input that this program is the school’s >>> responsibility and not that of a Community Center. In addition there are >>> safety issues related to traffic patterns, increased cars and children >>> walking or on bikes to get to and from school and activities. >>> >>> Furthermore, it was clear from the lack of discussion on the topic last >>> night, that there was no SERIOUS consideration by the committee of other >>> sites throughout Town that could be appropriate for a community center, >>> particularly COA functions. While Bemis Hall and the Pierce House have been >>> visited, no details about what it would take to renovate them have been >>> presented, nor has anyone taken the time to investigate whether the Town >>> could use other buildings or space, historic or otherwise, along Lincoln Rd >>> or nearby and renovate any of them for a community center that at least >>> houses the COA. Mainly, the committee remains on the school campus because >>> it is the best place for Parks and Rec to be and many people want to mix >>> generations in a “Community Center for All”. >>> >>> I would like to propose that a new Town Committee be formed of concerned >>> residents, who would still like to see the Town have a safe and up-to-date >>> improved space for a COA, to conduct activities, but do not want taxes >>> raised any further, and be a committee that SERIOUSLY examines existing >>> sites that could be renovated, even if it means the cost of purchasing them >>> for the Town. I would be happy to serve on such a committee. In the mean >>> time until this committee does its work, we should put the Building >>> Committee and architects on hold and not have a special Town Meeting to >>> vote on the School site options in December. When Town’s residents selected >>> the school site as the “best” for a community center, they did not know >>> what we know now. >>> >>> Lynn DeLisi >>> >>> 125 South Great Rd >>> >>> -- >>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >>> Browse the archives at >>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>> Change your subscription settings at >>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>> >>> -- >>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >>> Browse the archives at >>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>> Change your subscription settings at >>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>> >>> -- > The LincolnTalk mailing list. > To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. > Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/ > . > Change your subscription settings at > https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. > >
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