Amen! Sent from my iPhone
> On Oct 21, 2023, at 5:02 PM, cmontie montie.net <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I’ve held back on commenting, but the bus stop at Hanscom has definitely > been on my mind since the HCAWG meeting where there was agreement to expand > options beyond the “C” versions. > > As discussed in this thread, North Lincoln has access on Hanscom Drive to > MBTA Bus #76 that goes to Alewife Station. The commute to Alewife is about 30 > minutes and the cost is $1.70 each way—less than 1/4 the cost of the Commuter > Rail from Lincoln Station to North Station ($8.75 each way!). In the 25 > years I’ve lived in Lincoln, I’ve used the commuter rail less than a handful > of times—but I can’t count the times that we’ve parked at Alewife to hop on > the Red Line to get into Cambridge and Boston. While this is beyond the > scope of the HCAWG, I’d welcome more bus options from Lincoln to Alewife via > the Rt. 2 corridor—and even a commuter lot for it. > > Also, for car-access from North Lincoln to major transportation-arteries such > as 2A, 2 and 95/128, there would be no need to drive through the center of > town. > > The prospect of increased traffic congestion on Lincoln Road is a real > concern if the bulk of the 635 units are concentrated only in the Lincoln > Station area, as Option C rezoning could result in. > > Anyone spending the market rate of $4000/month for a two-bedroom apartment in > Lincoln will have two cars. How else would they get to the doctor, the > dentist, the soccer games, the pharmacy… and all the other places that we all > go? Will people really take the commuter rail to go to the hardware store in > Concord Ctr. (at $2.75 each way)—or will they drive their cars? And what > about going to Verrill Farm or Costco or any number of other places not close > to public transportation? These new Lincoln residents will drive. > > The “hub and spoke” configuration of our main roads doesn’t give anyone > needing to get to the schools or the Mall/Station along Lincoln Road an > alternative route. Likewise accessing major-arteries like Rt 2 can involve a > trip down Lincoln Rd. for many residents. Combine the added cars with the > need to stop for train crossings (on one end at the station) and a five-way > stop (at the other end in the Old Town Center), and it seems reasonable to > predict that you will have some regular major bottlenecks on your hands that > will also impact residents on Upland Field, Beaver Pond, Pierce Hill, > Macintosh Lane, Todd Pond, Wells Rd, Meadowdam, etc… and further along > “downstream” along Bedford Rd., Trapelo Rd., Sandy Pond Rd., Weston Rd. Etc. > due to line ups at the flowerpot/five corners… It also seems reasonable to > suspect that there also would be more cut-through traffic on Tower Rd. to > avoid backups. > > I realize the variables are complicated, and I thank everyone who is puzzling > over this act and its requirements. Dispersing additional housing beyond the > 20% at Lincoln station seems prudent. > > > > >> Message: 51 >> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2023 19:12:21 -0400 >> From: Scott Clary <[email protected]> >> To: David Cuetos <[email protected]> >> Cc: Lincoln Talk <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] [HCALinc] Re: 15 units per Acre: Part 4 - >> Alternatives >> Message-ID: >> <ca+zammf8m6-jxkokynoublrdjwteg_x9_a8se1y9ekcfevu...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Definitely needs to be looked into further with the state. >> >> Kind Regards, >> >> Scott Clary >> 617-968-5769 >> >> Sent from a mobile device - please excuse typos and errors >> >>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023, 6:20 PM David Cuetos <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> There are strong reasons why the Hanscom bus station should be considered >>> a valid transit station: >>> >>> 1) The EOHLC cannot go too far astray from the letter of the Act. As it >>> has been shown in previous emails, the Act just states ?Bus station? as a >>> valid transit station. The EOHLC must know that trying to exclude certain >>> bus stations could lead to successful challenges from towns affected, and >>> should therefore act with restraint. >>> >>> 2) Even if we assume that the ?high capacity? qualifier is valid, we can >>> argue the Hanscom bus stop fits the bill as a bimodal line (connected to >>> the T red line), with service every ~40 minutes during morning and >>> afternoon peak times, in-line or more than our commuter rail during those >>> critical periods. >>> >>> 3) The guidelines do not state that only Silver Line stations will be >>> considered as valid transit stations. We should request the State to >>> consider the Hanscom station as a valid transit station as it meets the >>> criteria for sheltering and high-capacity. >>> >>>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 4:15?PM Robert Ahlert <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Bus stations are defined in the guidelines but I think you are right, it >>>> doesn?t apply to us. Our bus stop meets some of the criteria, but not all >>>> of them to be considered. It could still be checked with the state just to >>>> get a final ruling. >>>> So I?ll have to revise these options again, but still, we have many more >>>> alternatives than folks are thinking of which don?t place everything in >>>> South Lincoln. >>>> Keep the debate going! >>>> Rob >>>>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 4:08?PM Don Seltzer <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Commuter Rail Station is the only one that applies to Lincoln. >>>>> Bus Station is very narrowly defined as certain high volume Silverline >>>>> stations. >>>>> Bus stops are mentioned nowhere in the law or guidelines. >>>>> Don Seltzer >>>>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 1:35 PM Robert Ahlert <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> These are just ideas, any permutation and combination could be >>>>>> considered. Personally, I think the Village center should be redeveloped, >>>>>> but not everyone agrees. >>>>>> The regulation does not require the 20% to be near the commuter rail, >>>>>> it can be any mass transit. At least that is my understanding, correct me >>>>>> if I?m wrong? >>>>>> Rob >>>>>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 1:30?PM John Mendelson < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> Am I reading this correctly in that only one of the new proposals >>>>>>> (E11) includes the "Village Center" land owned by the RLF? >>>>>>> Also, can you clarify how E1, E2, E7, E8, E9, and E10 meet the "20% >>>>>>> within .5 mile of transit station" criteria? >>>>>>> Finally, how do you arrive at the total Option C max units number of >>>>>>> 1,347. >>>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>>> John >>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 1:04?PM Robert Ahlert <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi all - >>>>>>>> We put together a list of alternatives that comply with the HCA but >>>>>>>> just do so in a way to attempt address the concerns I raised in my >>>>>>>> previous >>>>>>>> email. There are many combinations and permutations of parcels around >>>>>>>> town that would allow us to fully comply with the requirements, each >>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>> their own pros and cons which should be debated. >>>>>>>> This is a very difficult regulation to try to respond to so I >>>>>>>> sympathize with the Working Group, they are trying to hit a moving >>>>>>>> target. >>>>>>>> But let's slow down and not get to March town vote and then have an >>>>>>>> up/down >>>>>>>> vote on a bad solution (e.g. Option C). Hopefully D1 and D2 are good >>>>>>>> solutions however we have created E1 to E11 just in case. Please >>>>>>>> attend >>>>>>>> Tuesday Planning board meeting to see what Options D1 and D2 look like. >>>>>>>> Here is our list, happy to send as Excel if folks are interested. >>>>>>>> [image: image.png] >>>>>>>> I have sent this list to the HCA Working Group and hopefully at some >>>>>>>> time in the near future we'll get the chance to review these ideas with >>>>>>>> them. >>>>>>>> If you have similar concerns, please voice them in whatever way you >>>>>>>> are comfortable. If you would like more info on the HCA or Alternative >>>>>>>> solutions, please let us know by emailing >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> Rob Ahlert >>>>>>>> 185 Lincoln Rd >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> *Robert Ahlert* | *781.738.1069* | [email protected] >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>>>>>> To post, send mail to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> Browse the archives at >>>>>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>>>>>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>>>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>>>> To post, send mail to [email protected]. >>>>>> Browse the archives at >>>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>>>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>>>> -- >>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>> To post, send mail to [email protected]. >>>> Browse the archives at >>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "HCALincoln" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/hcalincoln/CAEpGxk_XLrCTrUcNS8JqdOkXFGaueUJcdmAyUwkoJL8jFEy_5A%40mail.gmail.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/hcalincoln/CAEpGxk_XLrCTrUcNS8JqdOkXFGaueUJcdmAyUwkoJL8jFEy_5A%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . > > > Best > > Carolyn > -- > The LincolnTalk mailing list. > To post, send mail to [email protected]. > Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. > Change your subscription settings at > https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. > -- The LincolnTalk mailing list. 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