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On Thu, Nov 9, 2023 at 7:45 PM Anne Warner <warneran...@gmail.com> wrote: > I agree both with the formal definition of Semite as including Arabs, as > well as others, but it is unquestionable that the colloquial understanding > of the word is anti-Jews. > > May I suggest before we go down a rabbit hole here that we simply consider > a statement that Lincoln stands against discrimination and hate crimes to > any and all groups of people? > > - Sent from iPhone. Typed by thumb. Excuse misspellings! > > On Nov 8, 2023, at 6:41 PM, Rich Rosenbaum <s...@bcdef.com> wrote: > > > While what you say is true, I believe most people equate antisemitism with > discrimination against Jews. Also from the Wikipedia > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism>: > > Antisemitism (also spelled anti-semitism or anti-Semitism) is hostility >> to, prejudice towards, or discrimination against Jews. >> > > > > On Wed, Nov 8, 2023 at 5:54 PM John and Margit Griffith < > johnandmar...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> As the discussion progresses toward a statement against antisemitism, I >> think it's important people understand about whom we're talking. I thought >> I saw one post which said we should be in support of Palestinians as >> well... which we would be affirming with a statement of support for semitic >> people - who include (from Wikipedia): >> >> Semitic Speaking People (historical and present-day) >> Central Semitic[edit >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Semitic_languages&action=edit§ion=22> >> ] >> >> - Amorites <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amorites> – 20th century BC >> - Arabs <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabs> >> - Alawites <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alawites> >> - Ancient North Arabian >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_North_Arabian>-speaking >> bedouins <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bedouin> >> - Itureans <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itureans> >> - Nabataeans <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nabataeans> >> - Arameans <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arameans> – 16th to 8th >> centuries BC[54] >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_languages#cite_note-69> >> - Akhlames <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahlamu> (Ahlamu) 14th >> century BC.[55] >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_languages#cite_note-70> >> - Mhallami <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mhallami> >> - Canaanite-speaking >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canaanite_languages> nations of the >> early Iron Age: >> - Ammonite speakers >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammonite_language> of Ammon >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammon> >> - Edomite <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edom> >> - Hebrews <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrews>/Israelites >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israelites> – founded the nation of >> Israel >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_ancient_Israel_and_Judah> >> which >> later split into the Kingdoms of Israel >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Israel_(Samaria)> and >> Judah <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Judah>. >> - Jews <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews> >> - Samaritans <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samaritans> >> - Moabites <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moab> >> - Phoenicia <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenicia> – founded >> Mediterranean colonies including Tyre >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyre,_Lebanon>, Sidon >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidon> and ancient Carthage >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Carthage>/Punics >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punics>. The remnants of these >> people became the modern inhabitants of Lebanon. >> - Chaldea <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaldea> – appeared in >> southern Mesopotamia c. 1000 BC and eventually disappeared into the >> general >> Babylonian population. >> - Druze <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Druze> >> - Maltese <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maltese_people> >> - Nasrani >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasrani_(Arabic_term_for_Christian)>/ >> Nazarenes <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazarene_(sect)> >> - Antiochian Greek Christians >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiochian_Greek_Christians> >> - Mandaeans <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandaeans> >> - Maronites <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maronites> >> - Thamud <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thamud> – 2nd to 5th >> centuries AD >> - Ugarit <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ugarit>, 14th to 12th >> centuries BC >> >> East Semitic[edit >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Semitic_languages&action=edit§ion=23> >> ] >> >> - Akkadian Empire <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akkadian_Empire> – >> ancient Semitic speakers moved into Mesopotamia in the fourth millennium >> BC >> and settled among the local peoples of Sumer >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumer>.[56] >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_languages#cite_note-71>[57] >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_languages#cite_note-72> >> - Assyrian Empire <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyria>. The >> remnant of them became the Assyrian people >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assyrian_people>. >> - Babylonian Empire <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylonia> >> - Ebla <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebla> – 23rd century BC >> >> South Semitic[edit >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Semitic_languages&action=edit§ion=24> >> ] >> >> - Abyssinian >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethiopian_Semitic_languages>-speaking >> peoples >> - Axum <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Aksum> – 4th >> century BC to 7th century AD >> - Amhara people <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amhara_people> >> - Argobba people <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argobba_people> >> - Dahalik people <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dahalik_language> >> - Gurage people <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gurage_people> >> - Harari people <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harari_people> >> - Judaised Abyssinians like Beta Israel >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_Israel>, Beta Abraham >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_Abraham> and Falash Muras >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falash_Mura>. >> - Jeberti people <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeberti_people> >> - Silt'e people <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silt%27e_people> >> - Tigrigna People <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tigrigni> >> - Tigray people <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tigrayans> >> - Tigre people <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tigre_people> >> - Wolane people <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolane_people> >> - Zay people <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zay_people> >> - Old <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_South_Arabian> and Modern >> South Arabian >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_South_Arabian>-speaking >> peoples >> - Bathari people <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bathari_language> >> - Faifi people <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faifi_language> >> - Ancient Hadramitic >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadramautic_language>-speakers. >> Eventually evolved into the modern day Hadhrami people >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadhrami_people>. >> - Himyarites <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Himyarites> from 110 >> BCE until 578 CE >> - Yemenite Jews <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yemenite_Jews> >> - Harsusi people <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harasis> >> - Hobyot people <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hobyot_language> >> - Mehri people <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehri_people> >> - Minaeans <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minaeans> 10th century >> BCE to 2nd centuries BC >> - Qatabanians <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatabanians> >> - Shehri people <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shehri_language> >> - Razihi people <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Razihi_language> >> - Sabaeans <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabaeans> of Yemen – 9th >> to 1st centuries BC >> - Soqotri people <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soqotri_people> >> >> >> Margit >> -- >> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >> Browse the archives at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >> Change your subscription settings at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. > > >> >> -- > The LincolnTalk mailing list. > To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. > Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/ > . > Change your subscription settings at > https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. > > -- > The LincolnTalk mailing list. > To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. > Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/ > . > Change your subscription settings at > https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. > >
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