For the record, I do agree that the increase in private jets is detrimental to all of us, plus, it’s kinda disgusting, for many reasons.
There definitely has been a shift in aviation culture from (mostly) men who flew in WW2, who came home and ran county airports, or were corporate pilots for remotely located manufacturers to more “aspirational" owners who saw their various planes more as objects. I am told by some friends of mine who fly that it is not that same as it was……. Back in my day, if someone had a “weekend” place, they got there in a 4-seater Cessna, not a jet…. > On Aug 25, 2025, at 5:15 PM, Anne Sobol <[email protected]> wrote: > > This article accompanied the Globe's online weather report this morning: > https://www.bostonglobe.com/2025/08/13/science/climate-choices-change-personal-decisions/. > Even flying commercial is not so good for the climate. But increased luxury > private jet traffic out of Hanscom is really not good for the climate. > <image.png> > This graph shows each of the four towns surrounding Hanscom doing their best > to move towards the Massachusetts goal of net zero by 2050. > <image.png> > On this graph, the scale of the vertical axis has been changed to include > Hanscom. Industry projections for private jet traffic growth range from 5-10% > per year. > > On Mon, Aug 25, 2025 at 12:34 PM Laura Glynn <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> Needless to say I am not trying to discourage qualified commercial pilots >> >> I would be curious what percentage of commercial pilots trained at hanscom >> and what percentage of their students are going for a commercial license >> >> And then there are airports in less heavily populated areas >> >> >> I know someone who leases his private plane on an hourly short term basis so >> he can get the depreciation >> >> What I heard was that the people learning to fly were doing so because they >> were buying a private plane for personal use. >> >> >> >> On Sun, Aug 24, 2025 at 9:51 PM Jennifer Saffran <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> You understand that private pilots turn into commercial pilots, right? In >>> order to apply to fly commercial planes, one has to have the hours and the >>> flight ratings, and those are acquired at the pilot’s expense. Getting to >>> an IFR rating can cost the same as a 4 year college degree. >>> >>> Those are the same people who learn to fly helicopters, too. Spend a night >>> watching the sky over the Longwood Medical Center area and note how many >>> emergency helicopters come in. >>> >>> Think of the planes that put out the raging forest fires. >>> >>> Not everyone chooses to learn to fly via the Air Force. >>> >>> Yes, some of these hobbyists will never fly “life saving missions”, but >>> without the commercial aviation pipeline, this country will be short of >>> pilots. And for the near and distant future, our transportation and >>> security depend on pilots. >>> >>> Jennifer Saffran >>> Glider pilot license, expired >>> >>>> On Aug 24, 2025, at 3:25 PM, Laura Glynn <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> The flight radar 24 app (free) shows you most every plane in the air and >>>> where it is flying and who owns it >>>> >>>> The private flights at hanscom fall into three buckets >>>> >>>> * True privately owned planes taking the billionaires to Martha’s >>>> Vineyard, Nantucket, the Hamptons, Maine or (during the week) business >>>> centers. In the winter these planes fly instead to Florida, ski resorts >>>> and Mexico (yes all the way to Mexico from hanscom) >>>> >>>> * Disguised commercial flights that sell “memberships” instead of tickets >>>> and this gets them around the no commercial flights at hanscom rule. Net >>>> jets and planes sense are two of these companies and they are listed as >>>> the owners of the planes so easy to spot. These flights go to the same >>>> vacation spots as the true private planes but these poor millionaires have >>>> to share the plane with other millionaires and book ahead >>>> >>>> * people learning to fly private planes - because after all we really want >>>> more and more private planes. These flights are really irritating. They >>>> are horrible noise polluters and they go round and round in circles >>>> spewing toxic fumes. I would love to shut down the training flights at >>>> hanscom >>>> >>>> Enjoy the app. When a plane wakes you up open the app and see where it is >>>> going. Grrrrr >>>> >>>> I am also in the category of “moderated” so let’s roll the dice and see if >>>> it gets through the filter! >>>> >>>> Laura Glynn >>>> Tower road >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Aug 24, 2025 at 4:02 PM Susan Mohn via Lincoln >>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> I don’t think the majority are military aircraft. What I see, being near >>>>> the field, are private jets coming and going frequently. There are a few >>>>> loud military flights, but they are few. I believe by far it’s the >>>>> private jet traffic! The private jet activity really picks up on Fridays >>>>> and Sundays/Mondays. It’s growing increasingly worse and worse. In all >>>>> honesty, I’ve heard probably at least 3 jets taking off during the >>>>> timespan of typing this text at 4:00 on Sunday. >>>>> Wooops! Make that 4 jets!!! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> > On Aug 22, 2025, at 2:12 AM, Tom Kennedy <[email protected] >>>>> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > The increased military traffic is part of the Marines' 250th birthday >>>>> > celebration. >>>>> > It's been well publicized by most media, except interestingly not in the >>>>> > Globe. There have been numerous TV videos of planes landing and taking >>>>> > off >>>>> > at Boston Common. 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