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Today's Topics:

   1. OpenAI Unveils ChatGPT o1: A Leap Towards Human-Like AI with
      Advanced Reasoning Skills | Brief (Antony Barry)
   2. Re: The new Aussie cyber security laws (David)
   3. Re: OpenAI Unveils ChatGPT o1: A Leap Towards Human-Like AI
      with Advanced Reasoning Skills | Brief (Roger Clarke)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2024 14:30:08 +1100
From: Antony Barry <[email protected]>
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Subject: [LINK] OpenAI Unveils ChatGPT o1: A Leap Towards Human-Like
        AI with Advanced Reasoning Skills | Brief
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   - *OpenAI is making significant strides towards artificial general
   intelligence (AGI), aiming to replicate human-like cognitive abilities.*
   -
   The company recently unveiled its new AI model, ChatGPT o1, which is
   capable of complex reasoning and logical thinking, surpassing simple
   pattern recognition.
   -
   This breakthrough with ChatGPT o1 represents a substantial leap forward
   in AI development, bringing OpenAI closer to achieving AGI.
   -
   The o1 models utilize a 'chain of thought' approach, allowing them to
   think step-by-step, refine their reasoning, and correct mistakes.


https://www.brief.news/ai/2024/10/11/openai-models-spark-debate?categories=AI&categories=Climate+change&date=2024-10-12&utm_source=daily-brief&utm_medium=email&source=%2Femail&uid=clncfg0vj001es610d6r44diy


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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2024 17:51:41 +1100
From: David <[email protected]>
To: Roger Clarke <[email protected]>, [email protected]
Subject: Re: [LINK] The new Aussie cyber security laws
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On 12/10/24 21:40, Roger Clarke wrote:
>> ?The Australian government has introduced new cyber security laws.? Here?s 
>> what you need to know
>> ?By David Tuffley, Senior Lecturer in Applied Ethics &? CyberSecurity, 
>> Griffith University.
>> ...
>> ?These standards will establish a baseline level of security for consumers. 
>> They will include secure default settings, unique device passwords, regular 
>> security updates and encryption of sensitive data.
>> [...]
>> ?This is a welcome step that will ensure everyday devices meet minimum 
>> security criteria before they can be sold in Australia.
>
> Dreamland.
> Oh, sorry, I forgot.? David's an ethicist.? Outcomes are optional.
(:-)...? Let's hope the Signals Directorate were heavily involved and the 
commercial interests of Google, Meta et al were kept in perspective, but these 
sorts of politico-techno decisions often seem to have an ethical component.? A 
standout example is the proposed ban on children's access to social media, the 
subject of another thread here.

> The definition of 'network-connected product' is dopey - invented by a lawyer 
> with no sense of IT architecture.? The sensible approach would be to define 
> 'A network-connectable product' in physical-connection terms and make no 
> mention of inter-connectability in the definition, and 'An 
> internet-connectable product', as it is, relative to "a communication 
> protocol that forms part of the internet protocol suite".
In terms of "physical connection"?? The old ISO 7-layer model of Open Systems 
Interconnection has the physical connection at the bottom of the stack because 
it's so general in natureand has little to do with any higher functions at all; 
it's just any method of signalling symbols, even Morse Code.? Bringing in "the 
internet protocol suite" is no help IMO because that usually means TCP/IP 
specifically, and it's only at ISO layers 2-3 anyway so has much the same 
problems.

All this illustrates the fundamental difficulty of achieving functional & legal 
_outcomes_ in terms of technology.? I suggest they're orthogonal dimensions of 
the problem.

But if we have to do so for the sake of getting something done, I think 
legislation has to be thought through much better at both legislative and 
technical levels.? And that probably begins with Privacy Laws which are much 
more European in tone, together with penalties which bloody well hurt and which 
some businesses won't like!!

Regards,
_David Lochrin_


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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2024 18:03:27 +1100
From: Roger Clarke <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [LINK] OpenAI Unveils ChatGPT o1: A Leap Towards
        Human-Like AI with Advanced Reasoning Skills | Brief
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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I've not quite finished drafting my paper debunking the nonsense that 
these people carry on with.  But I'm looking forward to all your 
feedback once I've got an exposure draft in place.

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On 13/10/2024 14:30, Antony Barry wrote:
>     - *OpenAI is making significant strides towards artificial general
>     intelligence (AGI), aiming to replicate human-like cognitive abilities.*
>     -
>     The company recently unveiled its new AI model, ChatGPT o1, which is
>     capable of complex reasoning and logical thinking, surpassing simple
>     pattern recognition.
>     -
>     This breakthrough with ChatGPT o1 represents a substantial leap forward
>     in AI development, bringing OpenAI closer to achieving AGI.
>     -
>     The o1 models utilize a 'chain of thought' approach, allowing them to
>     think step-by-step, refine their reasoning, and correct mistakes.
> 
> 
> https://www.brief.news/ai/2024/10/11/openai-models-spark-debate?categories=AI&categories=Climate+change&date=2024-10-12&utm_source=daily-brief&utm_medium=email&source=%2Femail&uid=clncfg0vj001es610d6r44diy
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