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   1. Re: ISPs consolidating - SPAM - Two Factor authencation
      (Marghanita da Cruz)
   2. Re: ISPs consolidating - SPAM - Two Factor authencation
      (Marghanita da Cruz)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2025 13:46:17 +1000
From: Marghanita da Cruz <marghan...@ramin.com.au>
To: dloch...@aussiebb.com.au, link@anu.edu.au
Cc: "l...@mailman.anu.edu.au" <l...@mailman.anu.edu.au>
Subject: Re: [LINK] ISPs consolidating - SPAM - Two Factor
        authencation
Message-ID: <f76e8be5-09e6-46c7-ae84-24346405a...@ramin.com.au>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed

On 8/18/25 14:10, David wrote:

> On Thursday, 14 August 2025 14:19:40 AEST Christian Heinrich wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 14 Aug 2025 at 12:26, Marghanita da Cruz <marghan...@ramin.com.au> 
>> wrote:
>>> Will have a look but currently trying to get Firefox to log me out (delete 
>>> cookies) when I close browser. I had this setup before,  but the cookies 
>>> seem to be persisting  across Browser sessions.
>> https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/profile-manager-create-remove-switch-firefox-profiles
>> might be the root cause.
> IMO the emerging Firefox Profile Manager has an interesting architectural 
> justification which rests on Internet historical development.
>
> The original browsers. such as NCSA's Mosaic, were essentially simple HTML 
> interpreters.  To quote Wikipedia and with apologies to Linkers with long 
> memories:  "Precursors to the web browser emerged in the form of hyperlinked 
> applications during the mid and late 1980s, and following these, (Sir) Tim 
> Berners-Lee is credited with developing, in 1990, both the first web server, 
> and the first web browser, called WorldWideWeb  [...]  The explosion in 
> popularity of the Web was triggered in September 1993 by NCSA Mosaic, a 
> graphical browser [...] aiming to bring multimedia content to non-technical 
> users, and therefore included images and text on the same page, unlike 
> previous browser designs."
>
> In the intervening ~40 years business has exploited the potential of this 
> technology but sometimes with little ethical consideration, to the point 
> where individual privacy now seems to have become the driving force of 
> browser development (and of the Internet more broadly).  Look at the current 
> issies around proof of age for social-networking sites.
>
> Firefox' Profile Manager is intended to contribute by stopping cross-site 
> linking, which enables marketers to build a comprehensive picture of an 
> individuals' financial situation, interests, the identity of their friends, 
> their major purchases and others being considered, their browsing history, 
> etc.  It does so by confining ALL data created by a given site to its own 
> dedicated area, rather than by putting all cookies somewhere, all cached data 
> somewhere else, and so on.  However it doesn't protect against someone with 
> system privileges or malware such as root-kits, keyloggers, spyware, etc., or 
> bugs in Firefox' own code of course.
>
> It's easy to invoke the profile manager by entering <about:profiles> in the 
> Firefox search bar, or by exiting Firefox and running <firefox -P> from a CLI 
> prompt.
>
> Well that's my understanding anyway, and sorry for the lecture...!
>
> Cheers,
> _DavidL._

Thanks David,After looking at profile and turning stuff off and back 
again and internet connection dropouts due to rain. I think now working, 
as I desired.Marghanita

Christian, I also had a look at 
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/profile-manager-create-remove-switch-firefox-profiles
 
and I guess I should have RTFM before experimenting. Thanks also, Marghanita

-- 
Marghanita da Cruz
Telephone: 0414-869202
Email:  marghan...@ramin.com.au
Website: http://ramin.com.au



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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2025 13:46:17 +1000
From: Marghanita da Cruz <marghan...@ramin.com.au>
To: dloch...@aussiebb.com.au, link@anu.edu.au
Cc: "l...@mailman.anu.edu.au" <l...@mailman.anu.edu.au>
Subject: Re: [LINK] ISPs consolidating - SPAM - Two Factor
        authencation
Message-ID: <f76e8be5-09e6-46c7-ae84-24346405a...@ramin.com.au>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed

On 8/18/25 14:10, David wrote:

> On Thursday, 14 August 2025 14:19:40 AEST Christian Heinrich wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 14 Aug 2025 at 12:26, Marghanita da Cruz <marghan...@ramin.com.au> 
>> wrote:
>>> Will have a look but currently trying to get Firefox to log me out (delete 
>>> cookies) when I close browser. I had this setup before,  but the cookies 
>>> seem to be persisting  across Browser sessions.
>> https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/profile-manager-create-remove-switch-firefox-profiles
>> might be the root cause.
> IMO the emerging Firefox Profile Manager has an interesting architectural 
> justification which rests on Internet historical development.
>
> The original browsers. such as NCSA's Mosaic, were essentially simple HTML 
> interpreters.  To quote Wikipedia and with apologies to Linkers with long 
> memories:  "Precursors to the web browser emerged in the form of hyperlinked 
> applications during the mid and late 1980s, and following these, (Sir) Tim 
> Berners-Lee is credited with developing, in 1990, both the first web server, 
> and the first web browser, called WorldWideWeb  [...]  The explosion in 
> popularity of the Web was triggered in September 1993 by NCSA Mosaic, a 
> graphical browser [...] aiming to bring multimedia content to non-technical 
> users, and therefore included images and text on the same page, unlike 
> previous browser designs."
>
> In the intervening ~40 years business has exploited the potential of this 
> technology but sometimes with little ethical consideration, to the point 
> where individual privacy now seems to have become the driving force of 
> browser development (and of the Internet more broadly).  Look at the current 
> issies around proof of age for social-networking sites.
>
> Firefox' Profile Manager is intended to contribute by stopping cross-site 
> linking, which enables marketers to build a comprehensive picture of an 
> individuals' financial situation, interests, the identity of their friends, 
> their major purchases and others being considered, their browsing history, 
> etc.  It does so by confining ALL data created by a given site to its own 
> dedicated area, rather than by putting all cookies somewhere, all cached data 
> somewhere else, and so on.  However it doesn't protect against someone with 
> system privileges or malware such as root-kits, keyloggers, spyware, etc., or 
> bugs in Firefox' own code of course.
>
> It's easy to invoke the profile manager by entering <about:profiles> in the 
> Firefox search bar, or by exiting Firefox and running <firefox -P> from a CLI 
> prompt.
>
> Well that's my understanding anyway, and sorry for the lecture...!
>
> Cheers,
> _DavidL._

Thanks David,After looking at profile and turning stuff off and back 
again and internet connection dropouts due to rain. I think now working, 
as I desired.Marghanita

Christian, I also had a look at 
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/profile-manager-create-remove-switch-firefox-profiles
 
and I guess I should have RTFM before experimenting. Thanks also, Marghanita

-- 
Marghanita da Cruz
Telephone: 0414-869202
Email:  marghan...@ramin.com.au
Website: http://ramin.com.au



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