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Re: ISPs consolidating - SPAM - Two Factor authencation (Marghanita da Cruz) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2025 13:46:17 +1000 From: Marghanita da Cruz <marghan...@ramin.com.au> To: dloch...@aussiebb.com.au, link@anu.edu.au Cc: "l...@mailman.anu.edu.au" <l...@mailman.anu.edu.au> Subject: Re: [LINK] ISPs consolidating - SPAM - Two Factor authencation Message-ID: <f76e8be5-09e6-46c7-ae84-24346405a...@ramin.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed On 8/18/25 14:10, David wrote: > On Thursday, 14 August 2025 14:19:40 AEST Christian Heinrich wrote: > >> On Thu, 14 Aug 2025 at 12:26, Marghanita da Cruz <marghan...@ramin.com.au> >> wrote: >>> Will have a look but currently trying to get Firefox to log me out (delete >>> cookies) when I close browser. I had this setup before, but the cookies >>> seem to be persisting across Browser sessions. >> https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/profile-manager-create-remove-switch-firefox-profiles >> might be the root cause. > IMO the emerging Firefox Profile Manager has an interesting architectural > justification which rests on Internet historical development. > > The original browsers. such as NCSA's Mosaic, were essentially simple HTML > interpreters. To quote Wikipedia and with apologies to Linkers with long > memories: "Precursors to the web browser emerged in the form of hyperlinked > applications during the mid and late 1980s, and following these, (Sir) Tim > Berners-Lee is credited with developing, in 1990, both the first web server, > and the first web browser, called WorldWideWeb [...] The explosion in > popularity of the Web was triggered in September 1993 by NCSA Mosaic, a > graphical browser [...] aiming to bring multimedia content to non-technical > users, and therefore included images and text on the same page, unlike > previous browser designs." > > In the intervening ~40 years business has exploited the potential of this > technology but sometimes with little ethical consideration, to the point > where individual privacy now seems to have become the driving force of > browser development (and of the Internet more broadly). Look at the current > issies around proof of age for social-networking sites. > > Firefox' Profile Manager is intended to contribute by stopping cross-site > linking, which enables marketers to build a comprehensive picture of an > individuals' financial situation, interests, the identity of their friends, > their major purchases and others being considered, their browsing history, > etc. It does so by confining ALL data created by a given site to its own > dedicated area, rather than by putting all cookies somewhere, all cached data > somewhere else, and so on. However it doesn't protect against someone with > system privileges or malware such as root-kits, keyloggers, spyware, etc., or > bugs in Firefox' own code of course. > > It's easy to invoke the profile manager by entering <about:profiles> in the > Firefox search bar, or by exiting Firefox and running <firefox -P> from a CLI > prompt. > > Well that's my understanding anyway, and sorry for the lecture...! > > Cheers, > _DavidL._ Thanks David,After looking at profile and turning stuff off and back again and internet connection dropouts due to rain. I think now working, as I desired.Marghanita Christian, I also had a look at https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/profile-manager-create-remove-switch-firefox-profiles and I guess I should have RTFM before experimenting. Thanks also, Marghanita -- Marghanita da Cruz Telephone: 0414-869202 Email: marghan...@ramin.com.au Website: http://ramin.com.au ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2025 13:46:17 +1000 From: Marghanita da Cruz <marghan...@ramin.com.au> To: dloch...@aussiebb.com.au, link@anu.edu.au Cc: "l...@mailman.anu.edu.au" <l...@mailman.anu.edu.au> Subject: Re: [LINK] ISPs consolidating - SPAM - Two Factor authencation Message-ID: <f76e8be5-09e6-46c7-ae84-24346405a...@ramin.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed On 8/18/25 14:10, David wrote: > On Thursday, 14 August 2025 14:19:40 AEST Christian Heinrich wrote: > >> On Thu, 14 Aug 2025 at 12:26, Marghanita da Cruz <marghan...@ramin.com.au> >> wrote: >>> Will have a look but currently trying to get Firefox to log me out (delete >>> cookies) when I close browser. I had this setup before, but the cookies >>> seem to be persisting across Browser sessions. >> https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/profile-manager-create-remove-switch-firefox-profiles >> might be the root cause. > IMO the emerging Firefox Profile Manager has an interesting architectural > justification which rests on Internet historical development. > > The original browsers. such as NCSA's Mosaic, were essentially simple HTML > interpreters. To quote Wikipedia and with apologies to Linkers with long > memories: "Precursors to the web browser emerged in the form of hyperlinked > applications during the mid and late 1980s, and following these, (Sir) Tim > Berners-Lee is credited with developing, in 1990, both the first web server, > and the first web browser, called WorldWideWeb [...] The explosion in > popularity of the Web was triggered in September 1993 by NCSA Mosaic, a > graphical browser [...] aiming to bring multimedia content to non-technical > users, and therefore included images and text on the same page, unlike > previous browser designs." > > In the intervening ~40 years business has exploited the potential of this > technology but sometimes with little ethical consideration, to the point > where individual privacy now seems to have become the driving force of > browser development (and of the Internet more broadly). Look at the current > issies around proof of age for social-networking sites. > > Firefox' Profile Manager is intended to contribute by stopping cross-site > linking, which enables marketers to build a comprehensive picture of an > individuals' financial situation, interests, the identity of their friends, > their major purchases and others being considered, their browsing history, > etc. It does so by confining ALL data created by a given site to its own > dedicated area, rather than by putting all cookies somewhere, all cached data > somewhere else, and so on. However it doesn't protect against someone with > system privileges or malware such as root-kits, keyloggers, spyware, etc., or > bugs in Firefox' own code of course. > > It's easy to invoke the profile manager by entering <about:profiles> in the > Firefox search bar, or by exiting Firefox and running <firefox -P> from a CLI > prompt. > > Well that's my understanding anyway, and sorry for the lecture...! > > Cheers, > _DavidL._ Thanks David,After looking at profile and turning stuff off and back again and internet connection dropouts due to rain. I think now working, as I desired.Marghanita Christian, I also had a look at https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/profile-manager-create-remove-switch-firefox-profiles and I guess I should have RTFM before experimenting. Thanks also, Marghanita -- Marghanita da Cruz Telephone: 0414-869202 Email: marghan...@ramin.com.au Website: http://ramin.com.au ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ Link mailing list Link@anu.edu.au https://mailman.anu.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/link ------------------------------ End of Link Digest, Vol 393, Issue 19 *************************************