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1. Re: Robot Submarines for Australian Navy (Marghanita da Cruz)
2. Re: Robot Submarines for Australian Navy (Tom Worthington)
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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2025 14:04:42 +1000
From: Marghanita da Cruz <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [LINK] Robot Submarines for Australian Navy
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On 9/15/25 09:02, Kim Holburn wrote:
> https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/sep/14/aukus-australian-submarines-vulnerable-new-technology
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> Billion-dollar coffins? New technology could make oceans transparent
> and Aukus submarines vulnerable
or will they have no people and be remotely controlled - Like Mining
Trains in WA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railways_in_the_Pilbara
mining trucks from 2015
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-18/rio-tinto-opens-worlds-first-automated-mine/6863814
Rio Tinto?The Australian Desert Train
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOOJLde9AFw
and not to be outdone, BHP Video of their train "This is IROC - BHP's
Integrated Remote Operating Centre in Western Australia"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPuWp3y0R-s
> https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/advances-in-detection-technology-could-render-aukus-submarines-useless-by-2050/
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>
> >Advances in detection technology could render AUKUS submarines
> useless by 2050
>
> On 11/9/2025 4:21 pm, Tom Worthington wrote:
>> The Australian Government yesterday announced it will spend $1.7bn on
>> a fleet of several dozen Ghost Shark robot submarines, to be made in
>> Sydney by US company Anduril Industries. This received limited media
>> coverage as most of the capabilities and some of the purposes of the
>> submarines are classified. I talked about this on Australian
>> Broadcasting Corporation (ABC) Radio Nightlife with Philip Clark this
>> morning.
>> https://blog.tomw.net.au/2025/09/designing-large-drone-weapons-systems.html
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Marghanita da Cruz
Telephone: 0414-869202
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Website: http://ramin.com.au
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2025 08:34:07 +1000
From: Tom Worthington <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [LINK] Robot Submarines for Australian Navy
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On 9/15/25 08:32, Antony Barry wrote:
> Do they need a submarine mothership somewhere nearby ...
In 2023 Australia acquired a former oil rig support ship, to use as a
drone tender, renamed ADV Guidance.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADV_Guidance
Australia already had two similar ships, ADV Reliant and ADV Ocean
Protector. The latter had "moon pools", which are hatches in bottom of
the ship. These allow a drone to be launched and recovered out of sight.
Very James Bond. ;-)
> or are they completly autonomous after they leave port? ...
The details of the Ghost Shark submarines are classified, which leaves
us free to speculate. ;-)
My guess is they would be preprogrammed to follow a set course, but come
up to periscope depth, to report anything of interest, via satellite (by
radio or laser). Crewed submarines use low frequency radio to receive
messages, but the antenna is too big for a drone.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communication_with_submarines
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Tom Worthington, http://www.tomw.net.au
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