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Today's Topics:
1. Re: email oligopolies (Roger Clarke)
2. Re: email oligopolies (Marghanita da Cruz)
3. Re: email oligopolies (Fernando Cassia)
4. Re: email oligopolies (Marghanita da Cruz)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2026 12:26:38 +1100
From: Roger Clarke <[email protected]>
To: [email protected], link <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [LINK] email oligopolies
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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On 9/1/2026 11:52, Kim Holburn via Privacy wrote:
> I have realised that most people seem to have given up and are using
> gmail or microsoft, who seem to have gobbled up all the free email
> services, or protonmail.
Is fastmail still on the recommended list?
I continue to use VentraIP for both web-sites and email.
They seem to use a wholesaler:
s221.syd2.hostingplatform.net.au
Unless it's just a domain-name they use for operations?
https://hostingplatform.net.au.siteindices.com/
https://www.dnsinspect.com/hostingplatform.net.au
VentraIP actually have support staff, and they have a clue. I've needed
it periodically (partly external problems, partly theirs, partly mine).
Lately, getting a session up to get to their control panel has been
slow; but they claim there's nothing wrong at their end. So maybe my
TransACT service is again being stuffed up by iiNet, who knows.
In short, I've been comfortable with their service for over 7 years.
https://ventraip.com.au/email-apps/email/#specs
Or run a web-site and get an email-service.
Not cheap, not stupidly expensive.
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On 9/1/2026 11:52, Kim Holburn via Privacy wrote:
> I have a friend who had an email problem.? His emails were often not
> getting to the people he was sending to.? I started looking at the
> problem and it was not simple at all.? Still haven't narrowed it down.
>
> Previously, running a mailserver meant dealing with avalanches of spam
> and making sure you were not somehow contributing to that. In addition
> to that, currently to run a mail server, you need to have complicated
> and technical systems for your mail to even be accepted.? ?Blocklists,
> spf, DKIM.
>
> Currently, ISPs in Australia have largely got out of the email game,
> forcing people to find email services elsewhere.? Online email services
> have been being bought out by the large online email services, so email
> services are being narrowed to large companies.
>
> I have realised that most people seem to have given up and are using
> gmail or microsoft, who seem to have gobbled up all the free email
> services, or protonmail.
>
> Sadly for most people, not technically proficient this means having
> their email on a cloud server somewhere, most likely in another country.
>
> With the world getting increasingly chaotic can any of us really afford
> to have all our personal and business dealings in another country, or
> even in our own?? Choose your poison?
>
> Kim
>
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Roger Clarke mailto:[email protected]
T: +61 2 6288 6916 http://www.xamax.com.au http://www.rogerclarke.com
Xamax Consultancy Pty Ltd 78 Sidaway St, Chapman ACT 2611 AUSTRALIA
Visiting Professorial Fellow UNSW Law & Justice
Visiting Professor in Computer Science Australian National University
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2026 14:06:07 +1100
From: Marghanita da Cruz <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [LINK] email oligopolies
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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On 1/9/26 12:26, Roger Clarke wrote:
> On 9/1/2026 11:52, Kim Holburn via Privacy wrote:
> > I have realised that most people seem to have given up and are using
> > gmail or microsoft, who seem to have gobbled up all the free email
> > services, or protonmail.
>
> Is fastmail still on the recommended list?
>
> I continue to use VentraIP for both web-sites and email.
It's the trapping by Spam Software that can get your email.
What was the old joke "I dont worry about viruses because my software
bug will get them".
Marghanita
PS Thanks for tip about 6 months ago Kim. Lots of users out there who
continue to use hotmail despite:
>
> Difference Between Hotmail and Outlook.com
>
> Is Hotmail still active? The answer is no, as Microsoft has closed the
> program and the user can only access their old account. So, before we
> go any further. Let?s compare it with Outlook.com to have a better
> understanding of the improvements made over the years.
>
https://corbettsoftware.com/blog/is-hotmail-still-around/?srsltid=AfmBOoqRIJRhr0ly9H09gqPrBQjQwYTAJK95SO0Orn3wVaFPKYUxG2K-
Meanwhile, google & viewed today,
https://www.lenovo.com/au/en/glossary/what-is-hotmail/?orgRef=https%253A%252F%252Fwww.google.com%252F&srsltid=AfmBOoro4JCMeJSohv-GDPydchiYtS9PxR0KGrUSIA6scMU2T-jorXg6
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Marghanita da Cruz
Telephone: 0414-869202
Email: [email protected]
Website: http://ramin.com.au
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2026 01:57:00 -0300
From: Fernando Cassia <[email protected]>
To: Roger Clarke <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected], link <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [LINK] email oligopolies
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On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 at 22:53, Roger Clarke <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 9/1/2026 11:52, Kim Holburn via Privacy wrote:
> > I have realised that most people seem to have given up and are using
> > gmail or microsoft, who seem to have gobbled up all the free email
> > services, or protonmail.
>
> Is fastmail still on the recommended list?
>
I use tuta.io (now renamed tutanota.com) for everything important.
I keep GMail for lists
FC
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2026 17:49:14 +1100
From: Marghanita da Cruz <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [LINK] email oligopolies
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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On 1/9/26 15:57, Fernando Cassia wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Jan 2026 at 22:53, Roger Clarke <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 9/1/2026 11:52, Kim Holburn via Privacy wrote:
>> > I have realised that most people seem to have given up and are using
>> > gmail or microsoft, who seem to have gobbled up all the free email
>> > services, or protonmail.
>>
>> Is fastmail still on the recommended list?
>>
> I use tuta.io (now renamed tutanota.com) for everything important.
>
> I keep GMail for lists
Is that why Google AI is so bad.
Marghanita
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Marghanita da Cruz
Telephone: 0414-869202
Email: [email protected]
Website: http://ramin.com.au
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