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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: email oligopolies (Marghanita da Cruz)
   2. Re: email oligopolies (Tom Worthington)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2026 12:57:30 +1100
From: Marghanita da Cruz <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [LINK] email oligopolies
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Perhaps David, you should also look at 
https://www.finance.gov.au/government/whole-government-information-and-communications-technology-services/gatekeeper-public-key-infrastructure-pki-framework

On 1/12/26 10:57, David wrote:
> My apologies, I'd intended this acknowledgement of Roger's post to be 
> CCed on Link. (DL)
>
> On Saturday, 10 January 2026 16:22:41 AEDT Roger Clarke wrote:
>> In the end, it became apparent to increasing numbers of people that 
>> PKI couldn't do what they wanted it to do, which was to somehow 
>> 'bind' a key to a real-world physical entity or real-world virtual 
>> identity.
>>
>> My last forays into the morass were in 2001, in this pair of papers
> There are certainly problems, and I'll read both your papers with 
> interest before bursting into print again on this subject! However my 
> general position is that PKI designed & implemented by a competent & 
> ethical government without any compulsion to use it (a default option, 
> as it were), or any restriction on use of private cryptography, is 
> probably better than doing nothing (i.e. continuing use of plain text).
>
> I also suspect it would be hugely resisted by the Googles of this world.
>
> _DavidL_
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Marghanita da Cruz
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2026 08:28:29 +1100
From: Tom Worthington <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [LINK] email oligopolies
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On 1/10/26 14:18, David wrote:
> ... Government-run (therefore trusted) server ...

The Donald J. Trump Trusted Server?

At one stage I was collecting digital IDs like postage stamps. I had one 
from the Post Office, one from the Australian Government and others from 
assorted organizations. None of them actually worked.

I have been singing my email because some email servers seem to think it 
makes my messages more trustworthy.


-- 
Tom Worthington http://www.tomw.net.au
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