At 8:20 +1000 8/9/14, Paul Brooks wrote:
>Both Brandis and Morrison need to read the second verse of our national anthem.
>Actually, we need to swap the order of the first and second verses, so the 
>second
>verse is sung in parliament and at major sports events.

Nice.

But unfortunately ambiguous.

I'm sure you're referring to the now-second-verse but originally-third-verse, 
not the politically incorrect originally-second-verse:
http://www.hamilton.net.au/advance/lyrics.html

______________________________________________________________________

>On 5/09/2014 6:25 AM, Frank O'Connor wrote:
>> Mmmm, but they're simply doing what that great Protector of 'Freedom', 
>> George Brandis, wants,
>>
>> It's remarkable how selective he is with his 'freedom'. Bigots must be free, 
>> but the rest of us must be under control and do what the government wants. 
>> 'Freedom of Speech' is Paramount - but no way in hell would he award that to 
>> Joe Public in a  Bill of Rights. Freedom of Association is OK for despicable 
>> sexist foul mouthed Young Liberals, but not for bikies and Muslims. You can 
>> have your Freedom of Religion - but only as as long as you're a Christian, 
>> and preferably a Roman Catholic Christian.
>>
>> Privacy? Protection from the State? Court based curbs on the State's power.
>>
>> Why do you need that? We mean you no harm. It's all for your own good. I 
>> mean, you want to be secure don't you? Well, security means you have to give 
>> things up.
>>
>> Sometimes I despair of anything approaching rational policy coherence from 
>> our Attorney General.
>>
>> Just my 2 cents worth ...
>> ---
>> On 5 Sep 2014, at 1:28 am, Stephen Loosley <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Australian Crime Commission rejects limits on website blocking
>>>
>>> ACC also wants inquiry to examine penalties for non-compliant ISPs
>>>
>>>
>>> By Rohan Pearce (Computerworld) on 04 September, 2014
>>> http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/554221/
>>> http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/House/Infrastructure_and_Communications/Inquiry_into_the_use_of_section_313_of_the_Telecommunications_Act_to_disrupt_the_operation_of_illegal_online_services/Submissions
>>>
>>>
>>> The Australian Crime Commission has rejected calls for limits on the 
>>> government agencies that can issue notices under Section 313 of the 
>>> Telecommunications Act 1997.
>>>
>>> The ACC has also raised the possibility of creating some mechanism for 
>>> penalising ISPs for not complying with Section 313 notices.
>>>
>>> "The success of s.313 for the lawful blocking of websites relies upon 
>>> private sector compliance with law enforcement requests," states an ACC 
>>> submission to a parliamentary inquiry examining the use of Section 313.
>>>
>>> "It is noted that failure to comply with a request to lawfully block a 
>>> website pursuant to s.313 does not carry any consequences. In addition to 
>>> the terms of reference being considered by this inquiry, consideration 
>>> could also be given to addressing this issue."
>>>
>>> The federal government launched the inquiry in July. The inquiry follows 
>>> bungles by ASIC in 2013. In an attempt to block websites implicated in 
>>> investment fraud, the financial watchdog issued Section 313 notices that 
>>> also blocked access to unrelated websites.
>>>
>>> The ACC's submission also rejected the creation of a list of government 
>>> agencies authorised to issue Section 313 notices because it "will not 
>>> enable flexible responses to the inevitable evolution of the online 
>>> landscape".
>>>
>>> In a similar vein, the organisation argued against requests being limited 
>>> to a "list of defined offences".
>>>
>>> "However, recognising the extent of power to disrupt online services s313 
>>> provides, there is merit in considering the proportionality of the activity 
>>> being conducted or facilitated," the ACC submission stated.
>>>
>>> Adding a "proportionality threshold" would "provide response agencies with 
>>> sufficient flexibility to respond to a wide range of criminal or national 
>>> security threats," the ACC argued.
>>>
>>> Submissions to the inquiry by iiNet, the Internet Society of Australia 
>>> (ISOC-AU), and industry bodies the Australian Mobile Telecommunications 
>>> Association (AMTA) and the Communications Alliance all called for 
>>> restrictions on the government agencies that can issue Section 313 requests.
>>>
>>> The ACC said it believes that the agencies should be able to continue to 
>>> self-authorise their Section 313 notices, with staff of an organisation 
>>> submitting a written application to an "authorised officer".
>>>
>>> The submission also argued that although the ACC supports "consideration of 
>>> a formal transparency and accountability regime" - although organisations 
>>> that issue the notices should not be required to publish "certain 
>>> information" that could jeopardise investigations or the safety of 
>>> individuals.
>>>
>>> A transparency regime could include measures such as an appeals mechanism 
>>> or a reporting regime similar to the annual report published by the 
>>> government on the use of the Telecommunications (Interception and Access) 
>>> Act 1979.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Stephen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                                      
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Link mailing list
>>> [email protected]
>>> http://mailman.anu.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/link
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Link mailing list
>> [email protected]
>> http://mailman.anu.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/link
>
>_______________________________________________
>Link mailing list
>[email protected]
>http://mailman.anu.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/link

-- 
Roger Clarke                                 http://www.rogerclarke.com/
                                    
Xamax Consultancy Pty Ltd      78 Sidaway St, Chapman ACT 2611 AUSTRALIA
Tel: +61 2 6288 6916                        http://about.me/roger.clarke
mailto:[email protected]                http://www.xamax.com.au/

Visiting Professor in the Faculty of Law            University of N.S.W.
Visiting Professor in Computer Science    Australian National University
_______________________________________________
Link mailing list
[email protected]
http://mailman.anu.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/link

Reply via email to