On 2/10/2014 12:03 PM, Jim Birch wrote: > Also interesting would be the carbon emissions saved by technology. Eg, > teleconferencing v jumping in a car or a plane, virtual v bricks and mortar > store, web site v libraries and newspapers, computerised v non computerised > supply chain, etc. > > Every activity replaces something else. Beware of headline figures. > > Jim
Hi there, Thanks for the note. Yes, for sure, that's all somewhat interesting, but I'd say carbon emissions supposedly "saved by technology" is a whole other argument for now though (and I'd also say one that requires similar scepticism, inline with the greenwashing of technoculture/the deus ex machina of technology vs climate change caused by industrial civilisation that enables such technology.... Anyone here into positive feedbacks/circular logic? Reminds me of this graphic novel (please excuse Amazon link): http://www.amazon.com/As-World-Burns-Simple-Graphic/dp/1583227776 So yeah. Any good info on how internet systems *contribute* to direct ecological damage and climate change? Can't seem to find much out there. The notion that web hosting is to surpass the pollution of the airline industry by 2020 is amazing, but not surprising. That's a HUGE amount of unseen, unquestioned, cumulative ecological impact (completely ignoring for now the growing requirements for and cumulative impacts of other resources in post-peak such as oil for plastic, coltan for screens, copper, lead, zinc, etc etc etc; that are all required for keeping the machinations of such technology and the global economy going) Thanks, Jore _______________________________________________ Link mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.anu.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/link
