On 05/10/15 23:17, Karl Auer wrote: > By providing a substandard service to as much of the country as > possible, they keep the embarrassing cost blowouts down ...
I thought the original idea of the NBN was to cross-subsidize regional users with revenue from the city. > ... a deliberate exercise in lowering expectations. ... It is a very clumsy way to go about "shaping" expectations. Far better ways to adjust use, to meet capacity could be found. I have suggested using mobile learning applications over the NBN Satellite as a way to eke out the bandwidth. I expect the Government will latch on to this idea and realize it is better to tell rural constituents that their kids will get the latest in m-learning technology, rather than admit they have to use cut down applications due to a third rate Internet service. > Your personal requirements are of very little relevance. ... To quote George Bernard Shaw: “... my rank is the highest known ... I am a free citizen ...” (Arms and the Man, Act III). My trading off the speed and capacity for the flexibility of wireless access is what most people are choosing. > I want to work on remote servers and enjoy the odd online game, so > latency is critical to me and satellite access is useless ... I don't think computer games are an essential service worth increasing the total cost of the NBN many times to provide. > People's requirements are not geographically defined, so why do so > many people think it makes sense to provide service quality based on > geography? Service cost is determined partly by geography. The cost of servicing widely separated customers is very high, as Richard Chirgwin discussed in "How much would it cost to connect NBN fibre to rural Australia?", ABC Technology and Games, 31 Jan 2013: http://www.abc.net.au/technology/articles/2013/01/31/3680486.htm > And REGARDLESS of its capacity, it can delivery NOTHING of value to > people needing to use low-latency applications ... I think most people in remote parts of Australia would be willing to forgo being able to play computer games if they could get services such as on-line education to work well. > ... why should remote users be limited to satellite service? It is prohibitively expensive to run fiber to remote locations. > ... Want to fly a super-computer-backed jet fighter simulation over a > satellite link? ... I have not had the need to learn to fly a jet fighter. While I had to stand in occasionally for my F/A-18 fighter pilot boss at Defence HQ, I only had to fly his desk, not his aircraft. At the moment I am studying on-line for a Masters of Education, specializing in Distance Education. For this I need a moderate amount of on-line access, about the same as for the average school student. A satellite link would be fine for this. > Why is it so hard for people to see that data networks are the new > roads ... Remote parts of Australia have only dirt roads, or at best a thin strip of bitumen. We can't afford to build six lane concrete freeways out into the middle of nowhere. For the same reason they are not going to get fiber to the home. > We can run fibre to every corner of this country. Yes, it will cost > a bit... A bit? It would cost an astronomical amount to connect the last few tens of thousands of homes with fibre, thus the need for an astronomical solution: a satellite. ;-) > ... American cast-off jet fighters are a great investment ... No, Australia is buying the latest American jet fighters. The last time Australia tried to buy second hand US aircraft and refit them to save money, it did not work. NZ ended up buying the bits of the failed project: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaman_SH-2G_Super_Seasprite#New_Zealand Australia doesn't just buy military equipment from the USA, our new Landing Helicopter Dock ships are from Spain and our helicopter training ship is being made in Vietnam: http://www.news.com.au/national/aussies-ship-to-be-built-in-vietnam-in-major-contract-blow/story-fncynjr2-1227006293373 -- Tom Worthington FACS CP, TomW Communications Pty Ltd. t: 0419496150 The Higher Education Whisperer http://blog.highereducationwhisperer.com/ PO Box 13, Belconnen ACT 2617, Australia http://www.tomw.net.au Liability limited by a scheme approved under Professional Standards Legislation Adjunct Senior Lecturer, Research School of Computer Science, Australian National University http://cs.anu.edu.au/courses/COMP7310/ _______________________________________________ Link mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.anu.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/link
