At 11:19 +1000 5/8/18, Dr Bob Jansen wrote:
There was an thought provoking article in this weekends Financial Review about 
using block chain for managing sales of art. What they mentioned, and I hadn't 
thought of, was that when an artwork is destroyed, say by a fire, how does the 
block chain know? It requires someone to upload this information which merely 
moves the authority from a central organisation, like a bank, to an individual 
and thus does not remove the need for a trusted authority. If we can not trust 
someone like a bank, how can we trust a conflicted individual?

Agreed. 

The way I put it in my 2016 notes was:
>A key weakness in some of the claims is the assumption that access to reliable 
>digital data will solve related real-world problems. It may be feasible to 
>effectively evidence ownership of a digital asset such as electronic cash 
>through digital records. It is far more challenging to achieve the same 
>outcome in respect of physical assets such as real estate and chattels, and 
>even in respect of share-holdings. These require reliable links between the 
>digital world on the one hand, and, on the other, the real world of things and 
>people and the semi-real world of organisations. Blockchain does nothing to 
>address these key challenges.


Johann Kruse wrote on Sun, 5 Aug 2018 12:10:16 +1000
>Another BlockChain, to track conflicted individuals.

Ah, the old 'snake-head swallowing snake-tail' or 'disappearing up one's own 
fundamental orifice' trick.  Quick, where are the cartoonists??


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On 5 Aug 2018, at 08:08, Roger Clarke 
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I was a bit slow in getting around to commenting on the blockchain notion:

   Deconstructing Blockchain  (Feb 2016)
   
<http://www.rogerclarke.com/EC/BCD.html>http://www.rogerclarke.com/EC/BCD.html

It seems that the vacuousness is finally becoming more widely apparent:

Blockchain, once seen as a corporate cure-all, suffers a slowdown

<http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-blockchain-corporations-20180801-story.html>http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-blockchain-corporations-20180801-story.html


Funnily enough, over a beer the other night, a chap I was talking to came up 
with a problem that actually has a structure for which a public blockchain is a 
fit.  (Third beer, can't currently remember the details).

The conversation took place in Adelaide.  So the example I'd given him was 
old-system land-title, which is - but fortunately is no more - a long series of 
items of evidence, linked chronologically.  It was replaced by Torrens title - 
invented in South Australia - which is registry-based, such that there is no 
chain.  

Blockchain-shaped problems exist.  There just aren't all that many of them.

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