Nice "essay" Nikolai.

It seems easier with sipdroid than my iphone 2g (for 3g+ there is talkatone
app that seems to do what sipdroid does - dial in / out from a single app).
In my case I have to leave a softphone (Linphone) open in the background
(this requires a jailbreak app - backgrounder), then use GV Mobile jailbreak
app to dial the # I wish to call, then pop back to the backgrounded
softphone to answer the incoming "outgoing" call. Also no automatic setup /
configuration for pbxes for iphone app like you describe for sipdroid. I
couldn't find a setup guide on the pbxes site and much of the discussions
were over my head. Did I miss a newbie setup guide or iphone 2g guide?
Currently using the Linphone free sip account and am curious what is
different, better, advantage(s) of using a free pbxes sip account vs. the
free Linphone sip account?

On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Nikolai Cassanova
<[email protected]>wrote:

> Okay, I didn't know that you were trying to accomplish, free phone calling
> through sip, in that case, i think i might have a set up that includes
> google voice that can get you making and receiving little lag, as you said
> that your internet on both devices is fine, so I don't think its your
> internet that is causing lag, but your set up, unless your not getting 3g
> and is on edge network instead of 3g, that might be the reason there would
> be lag, but since i am always making and receiving calls over 3g through sip
> with the help of google voice and sipdroid.  My phone is a htc
> magic/sapphire or mytouch 3g (android version 2.2.1 with cyanogenmod 6.1)
> and i am on the tmobile network.  So it can't be android, as I would be
> having the same problems as you are having.
>
> If your interested in my setup what i did is this:
>
> Google Voice to IPKall (provides free DID number which is a virtual number
> that you will use as a forwarding phone in google voice) to (any sip
> provider you want but in our case we will use pbxes.org)
>
> Okay thats my setup and don't worry everything I wrote in that order is all
> free, so first go to google voice and just sign in with your gmail address
> and password to make sure your registered in google voice.  Then go to
> IPKall and sign up and get a number as they will provide you with a free
> number that is based in Washington in the United States (hope your based in
> the states or Canada b/c then this might not work as google might block your
> ip address since it only provides free phone calling to USA and I think
> Canada.)  Take down not of the number that IPKall gives you and then go back
> to google voice and then put that number that you got into forwarding phone
> that is located in voice setting.  Hopefully google voice will verify that
> number, if it doesn't that just mean that someone else that has google voice
> and is trying to do the same thing your doing used that same ipkall number,
> as if a user of ipkall signs up and doesn't use ipkall, ipkall kicks that
> user off and then takes the number and gives it another new user, but don't
> worry u won't have to remember this number is only the bridge between google
> voice and your sip provider.  As ipkall job is to then forward your call
> from google voice to your sip address.
>
> Okay next after you have your ipkall number verified go to sipdroid and
> download the latest sipdroid 2.01 i think it is, from android market, as
> after it is downloaded and start app, i believe there is an option to sign
> up for a free pbxes.org account that will set up google voice with your
> pbxes.org, so you can place calls or make outgoing calls through google
> voice from sipdroid by just dialing a number or sip address and hitting send
> in sipdroid.  After you do that your pbxes account will automatically be
> setup but you should then go on laptop and sign into pbxes just to make sure
> it is up.
>
> Then go to ipkall and now you have to put in your info for sip phone number
> and sip proxy, your phone number will be everything b/4 the @ symbol.  so if
> your sip address is [email protected], then in the space where you see sip
> phone number you should type 123hty.  Then put in sip proxy and password and
> email address.
>
> That should do it you are then all set to make and receive calls free
> through your tablet and smart phone, but to do a test call your google voice
> number and see if your sip client rings, i would use a sip client like ekiga
> off my computer as a test and it should ring.
>
> Let me know if this helps and sorry for the essay.
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 7:42 AM, Ted Krasnicki <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>  Nikolai:
>> Thanks for your reply.
>> The number of hours I wasted trying to get things to work on this SIP
>> system is not worth the results.  I did have some success using Linphone,
>> Emansip, and Ekega.  I say some because the voice quality was never phone
>> like.  It was often chopped up or delayed, pretty well unusable.  When I
>> communicated between (Windows) desktop and desktop it was perfect.
>> I tried sipdroid, and I could only receive (chopped)  calls, but I was
>> never able to initiate calls through it.  I also found that on my tablet and
>> smart phone the calls would terminate after 38 or 39 seconds.  I did the
>> testing near the WAP so it was not a low WIFI signal that was the problem.
>>
>> Also, I am not able to receive or make calls all the time on these little
>> devices, as things do not always work, and I have found no pattern to this.
>> I am also unable to use Google voice on these devices, as I am told that I
>> am not registered for Google voice which not correct since I do use Google
>> voice top make calls from my desktops.
>> Either it is the devices (but Internet runs fine on them), or, I suspect,
>> perhaps Android itself that is the problem.  I am using Android 2.1 on the
>> tablet, and 2.2 on the smart phone.
>> I wish there could be a mini Linux for these devices as I like Linux,
>> although I must use Windows on my desktops because of my programming work.
>> Thanks, again,
>> Ted
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/10/2011 8:31 PM, Nikolai Cassanova wrote:
>>
>> Android, does have google talk, I figure your trying to make free phone
>> calling through sip right? since your using android as in the your android
>> tablet, with linphone or any other sip client you can make phone calls
>> with,  I use sipdroid, check for it in the android market, also if your
>> smart phone is a android device as well you can try sipdroid on it as well.
>>
>> In terms of your lag it shouldn't be that bad b/c i use ekiga on ubuntu
>> 10.10 (linux) and for my set up I have people who call me on plain old
>> telephone systems and there is no lag at all.
>>
>>  On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Ted Krasnicki <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Simon:
>>> Thanks for your reply and the information.
>>>
>>> All this SIP stuff is new for me.  I got an Android tablet and a Chinese
>>> knock off of a Smart phone over Christmas.  I do not plan to use the cell
>>> phone connection with these so I got interested in this SIP stuff.  Skype
>>> for Android does not have either speech or video at the moment, and I cannot
>>> figure out if Google talk is available for Android.
>>>
>>> I was finally able to access the smart phone running linphone but using
>>> Ekiga on my desktop.  The linphone for Windows cannot connect with the
>>> Android smart phone, and I spent a long time trying.  I just installed a few
>>> minutes ago the latest version of linphone on the desktop, but at the moment
>>> I cannot do anything because the sip.linphone.org server seems to be
>>> down.
>>>
>>> When I was connected through Ekiga, though, it was very strange.  There
>>> was quite a delay from my speaking on the smart phone to the time that I was
>>> heard on the desktop and vice versa.  The longer I was connected, the
>>> greater was the delay.  After I was connected for 2 minutes for instance,
>>> the delay was almost 30 seconds, clearly unusable.   At the outset, the
>>> delay was only a few seconds.  But the quality of the voice was awful too.
>>>  Very chopped up.   Is this normal?  I use ADSL.   Can you suggest ways I
>>> can get a normal phone like connection for the voice, and I will worry about
>>> the video at a later time?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>  Ted
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/7/2011 4:01 PM, Simon Morlat wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Ted,
>>>>
>>>> First did you received the emails with the confirmation links for the
>>>> two accounts ?
>>>> On the windows version, password is prompted when needed. If it did not
>>>> asked for it, it means that it did not succeed to contact the server.
>>>> Are you sure of the configuration you entered ?
>>>>
>>>> Now about the contacts on Android app, we use the Android native
>>>> addressbook, which indeed does not necessarily make things easy for
>>>> entering sip uris.
>>>> My recommendation is to type the sip uris manually and then retrieve
>>>> them in the History tab (once you made a call to them).
>>>>
>>>> Simon
>>>>
>>>> Le mardi 01 février 2011 à 21:57 -0500, Ted Krasnicki a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> Hi:
>>>>> I installed linphone for Android on my tablet, and linphone for Windows
>>>>> on my base computer.  I got the free sip from sip.linphone.org, made 2
>>>>> accounts (i.e. user names) one for the tablet and one for the base
>>>>> computer, tried to call each other and nothing happens.  I notice there
>>>>> is no place on the Windows linphone app to put in my password, while
>>>>> there is on the Android app.  Also, on the Android app, I cannot put in
>>>>> any contacts: it says to press menu and then go to accounts, but
>>>>> nothing
>>>>> happens when I press menu.  Cannot put any contacts on the Windows
>>>>> version either, but I haven't figured out how to go about doing that
>>>>> yet.
>>>>> Can anyone help?
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Ted
>>>>>
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