LSOFT was the first site I visited yesterday.  Problem with Listserv is that
it is cost based, and we don't really have any interest in pursuing that
road yet.  We're just taking L390 out for a test drive, and our site has not
had any mailing list software before (I'd guess due to costs).  We don't
wish to stick a pin in our own S390_Cost_Effectiveness arguments by trying
to buy new stuff, even for a few thousand $$$.  The only price quote I could
find on LSOFT site was for their LITE version on WinStuff, SunStuff, or
other OSstuff, and that license ranged from $500-$2000.  I'd guess their
Full Blown Classic S390 version to be a bit more than that.  

So, I'm interested in a no cost solution at this time, attempting to show
some new applications that would be viable for the platform.

thanks,
tom



-----Original Message-----
From: Patterson, Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Mailing List Software


Hylton Tom P <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I'm investigating installing mailing list software (akin to 
> listserv or
> majordomo) to manage some internal mailing lists.

Why go with imitators, when you can get the real thing?  LSoft
now offers Listserv for Linux/390.  Check out 
http://www.lsoft.com/news/default.asp?item=S390 for their 
announcement last month.  As CEO Eric Thomas, an old-time VMer,
known to some of us as "Sir Eric la Terreur" (see
http://pucc.princeton.edu:80/~vmshare/read?fn=KNIGHTS&ft=MEMO&line=174)
noted:

        "LISTSERV� is no stranger to S/390, having 
        been originally developed on an IBM 4341 mainframe 
        in 1986. In the 1990s, customers migrated to unix or 
        Windows because S/390 hardware was no longer cost 
        effective. But today, computing power is so cheap that 
        it makes sense to spend more on hardware to save a lot 
        of manpower, and people are rediscovering the benefits 
        of the centralized mainframe business model."

An even better quote, though, is:

        "It only took about a day to install Linux on our IBM 
        MP3000 mainframe and make LISTSERV� work on that system. 
        All unix software vendors should consider porting their 
        applications to S/ 390. They will find that S/390 customers 
        are loyal, have a high degree of technical knowledge and 
        at least as much enthusiasm as other Linux customers."

<SNIP>

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