Jill,

That looks right, so I guess that's not the problem.  I'll have to think
about this some more.

Mark Post

-----Original Message-----
From: Jill Grine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 1:28 PM
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Subject: Re: TCPIP - VM Guest GATEWAY for VSE versus Linux


Hey Mark,

Thanks for including command syntax.

Kernel IP routing table

Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use
Iface
10.1.2.120      0.0.0.0         255.255.255.255 UH    0      0        0 ctc0

0.0.0.0         10.1.2.120      0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 ctc0


-----Original Message-----
From: Post, Mark K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 12:51 PM
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Subject: Re: TCPIP - VM Guest GATEWAY for VSE versus Linux


Jill,

What does your routing table on the Linux machine look like?
route -n

Mark Post

-----Original Message-----
From: Jill Grine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 11:51 AM
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Subject: Re: TCPIP - VM Guest GATEWAY for VSE versus Linux


Hi Mark,

On our system, all packets for 10.1.5.x are directed to 10.1.2.120, the VM
machine.
(Sorry, I left that piece out.)  So I guess my question is there any reason
I can't
route to the Linux system the same way I do VSE?  In other words, right now
incoming
packets for 10.1.5 get sent to 10.1.2.120 by the LAN.  The VM TCP/IP stack
redirects
them to the appropriate system, either one of several VSEs or Linux.  Is
there any
reason Linux should be treated differently than VSE?

Alan, if you're out there, any chance this presentation Mark mentions is
available on
the net?

Jill

-----Original Message-----
From: Post, Mark K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 11:29 AM
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Subject: Re: TCPIP - VM Guest GATEWAY for VSE versus Linux


Jill,

It isn't that TCP/IP is "different in Linux."  The requirement is that the
routers that connect to your VM system have to know where to route packets.
If the router isn't told that packets for 10.1.5.150 have to go through your
VM TCP/IP stack, it will effectively drop them.  How you accomplish this can
be done a number of ways: static routes in the router, dynamic routing
protocols to advertise the routes, etc.  Alan Altmark gives a very good
presentation on this topic at SHARE.  Unfortunately I haven't been given a
copy to post on the linuxvm.org site, or I would point you to it.

Mark Post

-----Original Message-----
From: Jill Grine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 11:03 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: TCPIP - VM Guest GATEWAY for VSE versus Linux


Good morning all,

Back again, but with a quick direct question.  When we run VSE as a guest
under VM, we code
the TCP/IP GATEWAY statement for VM as follows:
GATEWAY
  10                 =        TR1       1500         0
  10.1.5.130     10.1.1.120   CTCVSE    1500         HOST       (10.1.1.120
is VM first hop)

When I use the same syntax for Linux, it can't PING 10.1.1.120.
  10.1.5.150     10.1.1.120   LNX1      1492         HOST

I can ping the DNS server (10.1.3.140) and the linux machine 10.1.5.150.  An
earlier post said that we had to use a separate subnet for Linux, but a
response said not so.  The redbook Mark posted shows their Linux setup:
HOME
  9.12.14.155       WTSCVMT
  9.12.9.178        LINUX5V
GATEWAY
  9.12.9.184        =         LINUX5V    1500    HOST

Is this the part we OS/390 folks were warned about with regards to TCPIP
being different in
Linux?  The explanation for the VSE setup was that incoming packets would
route to the VM TCP/IP
stack (first hop), then get sent forward to VSE. Can someone clarify for
SuSE running under VM as guest?

Thanks as always,
Jill Grine

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